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Reply #60 - 02.01.06 at 23:13:05
 
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Woohoooo! Looks like it's a nice 3DMark race started over here!

I'll join you soon, need to wait for V5-6K 3700A to come Smiley And I'll try to search for Socket A clip for one of my phase-change systems... With right CPU it is possible to go over 3 GHz which should be enough for at least 4500 points.


thats not possible. max multi on that epox board is 15...and a FSB far over 177Mhz is not possible because of the high AGP clock whitch harms the Hint Bridge...
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Reply #61 - 02.01.06 at 23:30:01
 
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more than 3ghz??? and did you think about the FSB? with a 6k installed at the agp you cannot go up to 200mhz...

Higher multipliers  Grin

And about the higher scores with 3DMark2001 and faster CPU's --> Some CPU speed is being calculated 'into' the final score. When using a faster CPU you'll always get a higher score. Even if the graphics card won't go any higher anymore. Quote:
thats not possible. max multi on that epox board is 15...and a FSB far over 177Mhz is not possible because of the high AGP clock whitch harms the Hint Bridge...
What about using a pinmod or reconfigure the L-bridges on the CPU ?
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Reply #62 - 02.01.06 at 23:30:56
 
yeah pinmod would be possible... but even crystalcpuid does not allow multi over 15...
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Reply #63 - 02.01.06 at 23:32:53
 
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yeah pinmod would be possible... but even crystalcpuid does not allow multi over 15...

Crystal CPUID is software, pinmod is directly on the hardware which has priority over software  Wink
The only problem is your BIOS which doesn't understand the high multiplier. It may end up with MP 6x or MP 24x.
And before I forget to mention, do not use MP 20,5x since the Thoroughbred B of similar 9 layer AMD Athlon XP's can't work with that multiplier.

But MP 20,5x is useless after all  Roll Eyes
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Reply #64 - 02.01.06 at 23:39:11
 
okay... so i now already can say: congrats ALT-F13 to your new upcoming WR...

againgst phase change i do not have a chance with my air cooling...
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Reply #65 - 02.01.06 at 23:50:22
 
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Woohoooo! Looks like it's a nice 3DMark race started over here!

I'll join you soon, need to wait for V5-6K 3700A to come Smiley And I'll try to search for Socket A clip for one of my phase-change systems... With right CPU it is possible to go over 3 GHz which should be enough for at least 4500 points.


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GF 2 Ultra/Ti can be pushed far over 5000 in 3DMark2001, so V5-6K is not a competitor here.


Nope but in games where the card is built for it has better performance than a GeForce3 in many cases ....

For instance the Voodoo5 6000 crushes a GeForce 3 in Serious Sam The Second Encounter with ease, the Voodoo5 6000 also can keep up with a GeForce4 Ti4600 in Doom3 @ 1024 x 768 x 32 at a mixture of normal low settings so it depends on how the application reacts on the card it's self, so 3D mark is kind of pointless imho, okay it's not built for this game but it's mem bandwidth is the same as the Ti4600, the V6K has 4 Graphics chips to do the work and the Ti4600 has to do all the work with 1 chip so then it has to do more with less, where as the V6K the situation is just the other way around same bandwidth same speed.

in Descent3 the 6000 outperforms the GF2 U with ease but in 3D mark it's just the other way around so it's not a good way to test the card, but then again it's still impressife that it can score that high afterall it has no T&L Geometry chip Wink

I rather see the card in action in true glide based games like:

Tactical Ops ver 3.4.0
Unreal ver 2.26
Unreal Tournament Game Of The Year Edition 1999 ver 4.36
Clive Baker's Undying
Half-Life Oppsing Force
Blood II
Star-Wars Episode I: Racer
Turok II
Conflict/Descent: FreeSpace 1&2

things like that thing with Glide where the card can get it's full potential not with some silly 3D mark thing, that program does not even support Glide lol.

That 3D mark was written for T&L based chips so it's not the right thing to use for 3dfx counterparts, it will always be seen as a very wrong way to test your cards because in the games where the 3dfx cards ARE supported they perform much better, sorry but this IS the way I see this, I can't change my mind on that either.

I've got my XFX GeForce 6800GT AGP Dual DVI 256MB GDDR3 1.8ns [NV40GT] and ATi M18 Mobillity Radeon 9800 256MB DDRII 2.5 [R420M] ns for 3D Mark and my Voodoo's for Glide Smiley
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Reply #66 - 03.01.06 at 01:40:45
 
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Woohoooo! Looks like it's a nice 3DMark race started over here!

I'll join you soon, need to wait for V5-6K 3700A to come Smiley And I'll try to search for Socket A clip for one of my phase-change systems... With right CPU it is possible to go over 3 GHz which should be enough for at least 4500 points.



AthlonXP 3200+ with 333Mhz in a EPoX EP-8K3A



I am hopeful that ALT-F13 will attempt this for us Grin

If anyone can do it, He can 8)

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rather odd that I have seen them on sale as true 3200+ 333MHZ FSB CPU's in France.... anyways if HP made them they still would be seen as AthlonXP 3200+ with 333Mhz FSB right Smiley

I wonder if they would work in the EPoX EP-8K3A



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Reply #67 - 03.01.06 at 02:08:57
 
what is the highest possible multiplier?

btw: keep the WR in germany!!!
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Reply #68 - 03.01.06 at 02:14:13
 
Go Ukraine!!!

It's time for a drastic change, show them the true nature of the Force ALT-F13 !!! you can do it Comrad!
Dvigay Tjelom!
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Reply #69 - 03.01.06 at 02:15:32
 
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btw: keep the WR in germany!!!



LOL!

I think Globally when it comes to 3dfx.. No boundaries, No borders Wink Just good friends Grin

Together, we all win 8)
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Reply #70 - 03.01.06 at 02:17:31
 
@ Gamma742 you got a point there we are one team but sometimes it's also nice to see somebody else get a higher score right Wink

I'm quite sure ALT-F13 is capable of do'n anything crazy hehe I have seen his experiments, they are rather insane hehe

Dvigay Tjelom Comrad!
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Reply #71 - 03.01.06 at 02:22:25
 
I know, My money is on him. He won't be frightened away when Hank steps into the ring Shocked
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Reply #72 - 03.01.06 at 02:38:19
 
hehe it depends on what Hank's system layout will be hehe but ALT-F13 is hard to beat he is admin of Russia's and Ukraine's largest OC forum and Overclockers magazine hehe but a challenge is always welcome ofcourse hehe.

ALT-F13 is well known of some world records in extreme Overclocking , he shouldn't be under estimated hehe

But I dunno if Hank is has a well known rep in Overclocking, I do know he has the abillity to heal our V6K's when that call comes he will always be a Master Of The Force in that Wink

and I'll just be a Jedi Master watching the show that's more fun Grin

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I wonder what Thandor has in that red and white egg hmm
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Reply #73 - 03.01.06 at 02:48:54
 
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I wonder what Thandor has in that red and white egg hmm


Been wondering myself. Guess we'll have to wait an see Roll Eyes
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Reply #74 - 03.01.06 at 03:36:16
 
Who will be the V6K PWNerer Smiley

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