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Message started by m14radu on 15.07.07 at 06:18:59

Title: AAlchemy 8164 - 512 Mb
Post by m14radu on 15.07.07 at 06:18:59
I would like to buy such a nice card and i'm curios if it possible to use the card im XP, and with normal application.
What about games ?
Is the memory amount of 512 Mb an advantage ?
Overclocking possibilities ? Memory is 5.4 ns  ;D
And Drivers ? SFFT or Amigamerlin support the card ?
Power supply problems ?

People who own this card, please post your  impression !

thanks.

Title: Re: AAlchemy 8164 - 512 Mb
Post by exxe on 15.07.07 at 12:52:46
it have 8 VSA-100 chips, so each chip have only 64MB

you neet a special PSU with 2,9Volts
the original delivers 75A @ 2,9Volt

Title: Re: AAlchemy 8164 - 512 Mb
Post by gdonovan on 15.07.07 at 13:34:28

wrote on 15.07.07 at 06:18:59:
I would like to buy such a nice card and i'm curios if it possible to use the card im XP, and with normal application.


Never tried under XP, it might work as the only drivers are for Windows 2000.  


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What about games ?


Quake 3 runs as does GLQuake, Quake II, Jedi Kight Outcast & Serious Sam.


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Is the memory amount of 512 Mb an advantage ?


Not that I noticed.


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Overclocking possibilities ?


None- Board design and tools are issues.


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And Drivers ?


Quantum3D only, the Wicked3D minidriver works with minor texture issues.


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Power supply problems ?


A unique $1000USD unit (which none are currently for sale) is required to run the board, or a unique power board that works off a normal power supply.

As far as I know, I have the only running 8164 setup in collector hands, there is one other collector would might be able to get one running though.

Title: Re: AAlchemy 8164 - 512 Mb
Post by m14radu on 15.07.07 at 13:36:15
With a regular PSU, will not work ?
Did you tried your card ?
As long as you don't force the card, ( 8xAA ) it should start.
For posting and normal operation under windows the power consumption should be less.
But, despite of this PSU Problem, i saw that there is an aditional board, that should be used with the card, only for supply purposes. Or this one come allways with the card. ( the green one, with " No Leak" stickers )

Title: Re: AAlchemy 8164 - 512 Mb
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 15.07.07 at 13:36:28
wasn't there a later 8164 with a more modern Powerboard for somewhat more modern PSU's?

Title: Re: AAlchemy 8164 - 512 Mb
Post by gdonovan on 16.07.07 at 03:36:09

wrote on 15.07.07 at 13:36:15:
With a regular PSU, will not work ?
Did you tried your card ?


It will not work, all power and grounds are through the external connections accross the top of the board.

The 8164 does not output any 2D, just 3D.

The green board is for hooking up the unique power supply, see my webpage.

http://www.thedodgegarage.com/3dfx/q3d_aalchemy.htm

Title: Re: AAlchemy 8164 - 512 Mb
Post by Rolo01 on 16.07.07 at 09:37:22
I think TM30 has a special power supply for the 8164.
If memory serves right this one can be connected to a common PC power supply.

TM30, can you confirm this ?

Title: Re: AAlchemy 8164 - 512 Mb
Post by exxe on 16.07.07 at 11:21:35
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/v/3dfx_collectors/collectors_tm30/album33/1_001.jpg.html

he have one
but as i know he dont test it et

Title: Re: AAlchemy 8164 - 512 Mb
Post by ultima on 16.07.07 at 11:30:46
or you get this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/AV4-Power-Supply-for-Quantum3D-AAlchemy-3dfx-TK-Power_W0QQitemZ320138213588QQihZ011QQcategoryZ3670QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

starting bid 800 bucks, or buy it now for 1k. :)

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