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NitroX infinity YaBB Moderator Offline Posts: 1936 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Softwarematic SLI for Multi V5, in theory possible but.. Reply #15 - 14.03.09 at 10:10:06 Quote: VSa-100 was actually more of a Fill the gap sollution, as to expand the develpment of the VSA-200 which actually was planned after Voodoo2 aka SST-2. VSA-200 doesn't exist. You mean Rampage
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Reply #16 - 14.03.09 at 13:15:19

VSA-200 is the code name of Rampage, only it didn;t have the Voodoo Scalable Architecture, thus they called it no Voodoo anymore, it's production name would of been SPECTER which meaned:
SPecial Executive for Control, Terrorism, Extortion, and Revenge hehe, even this card's high end would of worked like a 5500 right?

I even wonder if 3dfx had planned a 2-way AGP x8 sollution since AGP 3.0 would of supported this, uless back then this idea was never mentioned, just imagine what Quantum3D would of done with the Rampage heh, maybe AA5 boards with 4 to 8 rampage chips heh.

But still tio get back to the topic, Software SLI could of given 3dfx more headspace for the leading performance, the only downslide is support in games and the cost extra needed to add a second card.

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NitroX infinity YaBB Moderator Offline Posts: 1936 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Softwarematic SLI for Multi V5, in theory possible but.. Reply #17 - 14.03.09 at 13:40:52 As far as I know, Rampage is Rampage and the VSA-200 is a made-up name by the community. I'd like to see evidence supporting your claim that VSA-200 is Rampage.
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Tim God Member Offline Posts: 1065 Gender:	Re: Softwarematic SLI for Multi V5, in theory possible but.. Reply #18 - 14.03.09 at 13:55:12 Even the Rampage powerpoint doesn't mention anything about VSA-200, the word Rampage is used throughout.
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Reply #19 - 14.03.09 at 14:05:46

NitroX infinity wrote on 14.03.09 at 13:40:52:

As far as I know, Rampage is Rampage and the VSA-200 is a made-up name by the community.

I'd like to see evidence supporting your claim that VSA-200 is Rampage.

The only place I have seen VSA-200 used was in Everest Home edition for identification of Daytona.

From Everest information txt file-

"Bus 1, Gerät 0, Funktion 0 3Dfx VSA-200 Graphics Processor"

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Gold Leader Ex Member	Re: Softwarematic SLI for Multi V5, in theory possible but.. Reply #20 - 14.03.09 at 22:28:15 Well if Everest reads that I'm quite sure it reads it from the core right? I mean this is how Everest works right Gary? Or am I a little confused here?
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: Softwarematic SLI for Multi V5, in theory possible but.. Reply #21 - 14.03.09 at 23:18:14 Quote: Well if Everest reads that I'm quite sure it reads it from the core right? I mean this is how Everest works right Gary? Or am I a little confused here? I have no idea what Everest uses but they can make the program state "Voodoo XXXI" if they wanted too.
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Reply #22 - 14.03.09 at 23:25:26

Everest reads the ID of the hardware and checks that against a list of ID's Everest itself has. That list can be edited to add new ID's. So naturally, it can be editted wrongly. We all know Daytona is VSA-101.

At least that's what I suspect, hardware doesn't store all the details about itself, just an ID.

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Gold Leader Ex Member	Re: Softwarematic SLI for Multi V5, in theory possible but.. Reply #23 - 15.03.09 at 01:02:27 hmm oke but then again Napalm = VSa-100 Daytona = VSA-101 right so it would seem logic that Rampage = VSA-200 right, or am I loosing it now yeah this is funny to some point.
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NitroX infinity YaBB Moderator Offline Posts: 1936 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Softwarematic SLI for Multi V5, in theory possible but.. Reply #24 - 15.03.09 at 02:49:33 No, Rampage was in the pipeline long before Napalm, so there is no reason why Rampage would be named VSA-200.
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Reply #25 - 15.03.09 at 03:07:19

Well okay for that part maybe, but since 3dfx made the Rampage card in week 47 of year 2000 it was obvious to name it a VSA-200 as it would of been the successor of the VSA-101 & 100

so in a way I do agree with you but on the otherhand as it is, I can't

For all we know now the VSA-200 is the last thing 3dfx made even when they were bankrupt, the spend 2 weeks to complete a single VSA-200 board and it is obvious to a certain degree that they called the Rampage the VSA-200 just for that point.

Okay my topic has gone offtopic but none the less it's still a very interesting one hehe.

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NitroX infinity YaBB Moderator Offline Posts: 1936 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Softwarematic SLI for Multi V5, in theory possible but.. Reply #26 - 15.03.09 at 14:23:55 If it would have been named that just because it was the successor it would have had a different name altogether; SST-6. So again, your logic is flawed.
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Reply #27 - 15.03.09 at 16:19:15

NitroX infinity wrote on 15.03.09 at 14:23:55:

If it would have been named that just because it was the successor it would have had a different name altogether; SST-6. So again, your logic is flawed. Wink

I hardly doubt that , imho it did make sense Wink

can you explain why Everest detects a VSA-200 then?
As what I did post was the facts as it is now only, because it is made after naplam and not as planned after SST-2 Wink

and where did you get SST 6 from? heh since Voodoo3 , 4 and 5 aren't called SST-3, SST-4 and SST-5, so even for that part you are mixxing it up a little or we both are haha Grin

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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: Softwarematic SLI for Multi V5, in theory possible but.. Reply #28 - 15.03.09 at 16:33:05 Quote: I hardly doubt that , imho it did make sense can you explain why Everest detects a VSA-200 then? Everest can make it state what they want it to state, it is a third party software program. Ergo the data from Everest is suspect and not to be taken as "canon"
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Reply #29 - 16.03.09 at 15:29:33

There are several IDs stored in the PCI registers of a piece of PCI/AGP hardware (PCIe too).

The two most important are:

Vendor ID
Device ID

3dfx hexadecimal Vendor ID is "121A". So every 3dfx board has this. I don't know about the Daytona (or Rampage) Device IDs, but i guess the authors of Everest just stored that waaay back and never ever changed that again. One might provide a bug report to them, to change that to VSA-101 for Daytona... but I don't care enough, I'm not even using Everest..

But mostly, there are no Strings stored anywhere in the registers (only possibly in BIOS, which is proprietary anyway). Only Hex Codes. And all those "system analysis" programs simply have a Text Database containing all the IDs and some descriptive Strings for them. So yes, they can be wrong. The only thing read directly from the hardware are the IDs from the device's PCI registers.

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