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PCI-X, PCI66, V5 6000 etc.
08.09.05 at 17:06:05
 
Long time ago on a forum called FalconFly there was this guy named Gary Donovan, he asked :
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Damn, if only there was a Clawhammer motherboard that worked with a V6K!
Then there was this other guy who named himself 'Thandor' or something  Roll Eyes
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Hmm, time to develop a custom board with AGP2x ?

You could use the AGP2PCI Adapter in combination with an AMD Opteron 150 and some high-end board with 66MHz PCI slots ?
Only compatibility *might* be a problem.
And of course the money...

On which Gary awnsered:
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Do they make a high end board with 66 mhz PCI slots? That would work with the proper AGP2PCI adapter assuming the adapter doesn't default to 33 mhz operation and nothing else on the PCI bus doesn't rob to much bandwidth.


Well, to begin : Looking at the AGP2PCI Adapter -->
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The PCI connector is just the same as that one of an 3dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 4 4500 PCI and 3dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 5 5500 PCI  Grin

Those connector identify theirselves as : Universal 3.3/5V 32-Bit PCI

If I'm not misunderstood every universal 3.3/5V 32Bit - PCI card should work in any PCI-X connector as long as it fits. So far I'm not aware of 'fake' ones like the whole AGP story with fake 'AGP4x' cards which behave as an AGP1x/2x card  Roll Eyes

I also asked some persons who have lots of knowledge about this : They say there aren't 'fake' PCI cards. So if the card fits, it should work.

But, I'm not willing to take risks. It would be nice if there's a way to test it (like testing AGP rate with a multimeter). Of course 'we' can try it out with an nVidia AGP2x card into the adapter. If the whole thing blows up it's not that bad since the 3dfx card survived  Grin

Well, are there any motherboard which support PCI-X ?
Yes, lot's of serverboards do. Many dual CPU board have PCI-X slots. A lot of Intel Server Boards for an Intel Pentium 4 do have PCI-X slots. But since the Pentium 4 isn't that good it's better to take a S939 board with one AMD Athlon 64 3500+/4000+ or something  Roll Eyes

Unfortunatly I haven't found S939 board with PCI-X yet. There are S940 boards but they are more expensive and you'll need at least one AMD Opteron 2x0 CPU which is more expensive than a normal S939 CPU.
Tyan does have some dual CPU boards. Most (if not all) boards will work with only one CPU  Wink
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Reply #1 - 08.09.05 at 17:09:14
 
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I also asked some persons who have lots of knowledge about this : They say there aren't 'fake' cards. So if the card fits, it should work.


"They" are dead wrong.

These are not *production boards* but prototypes.

They run at 3.3V not 1.5V and if run in a 4x board for any period of time WILL BURN UP.



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Reply #2 - 08.09.05 at 17:09:59
 
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No, I meant the PCI Universal cards  Wink



Ah, still need to verify that the adapter card isn't clocking at 33 mhz.
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Reply #3 - 08.09.05 at 18:15:24
 
Well Jedi Knight Psyco47 already had the sollution even longer ago Wink

http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=displa...

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Stay Tuned Psycho47 recalled Smiley

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Reply #4 - 08.09.05 at 18:18:32
 
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Well Jedi Knight Psyco47 already had the sollution even longer ago Wink

http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=displa...

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Stay Tuned Psycho47 recalled Smiley


I already mentioned that one in the post above me. But Gary editted my post accidently  Tongue

And, this topic is for discussion of the speed of that AGP2PCI adapter, too Wink
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Reply #5 - 08.09.05 at 18:28:20
 
http://forum.voodooalert.de/thread.php?threadid=9433

german but some interesting links
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Reply #6 - 08.09.05 at 22:22:47
 
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Well Jedi Knight Psyco47 already had the sollution even longer ago Wink ..

..ps47 should work better Wink
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Reply #7 - 08.09.05 at 22:28:19
 
oh mkay, oh well sorry 'bout the Jedi talk lol, still think in that way , atleast The Force serves me well. Grin

Anyways, a delay, oh well the release might be around Q4 05 ?
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Reply #8 - 08.09.05 at 22:31:47
 
I dont mind the jedi part,but my nick is ps47,not psyco Roll Eyes

I'll post in the "stay tuned" thread once I have more news Wink
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Reply #9 - 09.09.05 at 11:21:06
 
hmm okay, sorry PS47 if I click your name state I do read:

Username: psycho47  Roll Eyes

http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?action=viewprofile;username...

must of been a mistake by fill'n that name in lol   Smiley

But yeah can't wait for those AGP2PCI adapter hehe Grin could use a few Smiley todo some testing with my 3dfx AGP cards and ATi X800XT Platinum Edition AGP x8 and yes it's AGP x4 and AGP x2 reversable aka backwards compatible Smiley
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Reply #10 - 09.09.05 at 20:23:16
 
... Wink

new cards doesnt seem to be working when running with agp5.the driver is not able to recognize them (probably because there is no radeon9800pro pci)..
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Reply #11 - 10.09.05 at 01:07:44
 
yeah maybe, Dunno how the R420 aka X800XT PE AGP will react, hence that the 9800Pro a R350 is, a whole different architechture, but indeed no PCI versions of both exsist, still it should be possible.
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Reply #12 - 10.09.05 at 10:27:55
 
..perhaps with a small modification of the catalyst driver,but I have no idea how small (or big Roll Eyes)..
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Reply #13 - 10.09.05 at 19:06:55
 
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ask me,its wrong,one way or another Grin

ps47 should do for any future case Wink
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Reply #14 - 11.12.05 at 15:22:48
 
hmm any news on those adapters yet ps47, I'm interested in one Smiley

anyways let me know when they will be ready. I'm really interested in these AGP5 [AGP2PCI] converters.
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