Well since using some parts from friends box to test his parts, I ended up frying my own box. Really irritated with my self for doing it on this machine but....... Anyway, this mother board was a ECS K7S5A using DDR 2100 and an AMD 2100+ in it. CPU and memory are fine along with the new power supply I bought for it, but not getting any beeps from mobo with the memory sticks out of it. CPU and power supply fan kick on, but that's it. Sooooo I would like to know what some of you guys are using for your Voodoos. This box used to have my V3 in it (that still works) and my Kyro II 4500 (also still works) in it. Just some ideas on what to look for on pricewatch would be cool. Not really concerned with brand as long as it'll do the older cards with a newer CPU and DDR ram. Thanks guys.

I would recommend a EPoX EP-8K3A+ or the Epox EP-8K5A2+ Both excellent boards most would agree.

Thanks Gamma.

any other boards to look at that will support AMD 2000+ to 2800+ that will still run a 3.3 Volt AGP port with DDR? Looked for a list of boards on google but either not typing in the right words for the search, or there isn't one out there. Thanks for some additional help with this. Just would like to get this board replaced soon.

http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=119 :)

ga 7dxe supports 2100xp max run v55000 on it
still got my ECS K7S5A  for back up and a 1.6xp to go with it ,  locally i can get a secondhand system so cheap it barely worth building from scratch!

Thanks Nitro! This helped a ton.

You're welcome.

btw; it's NitroX not Nitro ::)
So often, people get confused because of the capital letter on the end ;D

Grab this one, it's the one several here are using with their V6K ;)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6837504938

THANKS MAN!!  ;D

How the heck can you run a Voodoo 3 on a new system that uses DDR? DDR is very new. Thinking of a Motherboard that supports DDR memory and that uses AGP version 1.0 for a voodoo 3 is basically impossible.

My ECS p6bx-A+ motherboard is AGP 1.0, I use my voodoo 3 in it, but it's limited. Most Pentium 4's that use AGP use agp 2.0, which is backwards for agp 1.0 /not compatible /upside down teethmarks. My pc I use for my voodoo uses sdram, pc66 or pc100 (can't do pc133 because of fsb limitation, has many hardware limitations).
It would be a start of the art pc for 1998. I don't see how any new PC could use a voodoo 3 agp.

wrote on 23.01.06 at 11:57:13:

How the heck can you run a Voodoo 3 on a new system that uses DDR? DDR is very new. Thinking of a Motherboard that supports DDR memory and that uses AGP version 1.0 for a voodoo 3 is basically impossible.

I don't know where you got that idea from but I can tell you that DDR already existed in 2000. AGP 2.0 was introduced somewhere in 1999 or 2000 so it's not strange that there are motherboards with AGP1.0 and DDR support.


Quote:

My ECS p6bx-A+ motherboard is AGP 1.0, I use my voodoo 3 in it, but it's limited. Most Pentium 4's that use AGP use agp 2.0, which is backwards for agp 1.0 /not compatible /upside down teethmarks. My pc I use for my voodoo uses sdram, pc66 or pc100 (can't do pc133 because of fsb limitation, has many hardware limitations). It would be a start of the art pc for 1998. I don't see how any new PC could use a voodoo 3 agp.

You obviously don't know much about hardware, perhaps you should seek out articles on the recent history (1992 - now) of computers.

Besides AGP 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 there are also the universal AGP busses which support multiple speeds and voltages. My ASUS P4S533 motherboard (Pentium 4 with DDR) for instance has a Universal AGP1.0/2.0 bus. It can deliver two-speed (2x) 3.3Volt or four-speed (4x) 1.5Volt. I had my V5 working like a charm on it. And there are far more motherboards which support Voodoo's. Just see the link in my earlier post.

I mispelled something /typo. Agp 2.0 which isn't compatible with 1.0, vice versa. AGP 2.0 can fit in AGP 3.0, but agp 3.0 can't fit into 2.0... I know about this whole thing, so please don't say I don't know anything about voodoos. I did my research. I know about AGP Pro, 1, 2, 3, etc.  
I do make some spelling mistakes. And the majority of Pentium 4s out there don't have agp 1.0. Maybe for a very short time petium 4 mobo's support agp 1.0 which are rare if any at all. DDR wasn't the main player in 1999 or 2000, it was SDram. I remember the change well, going from EDO ram to SDram. DDR wasn't common until like 2 years later.

wrote on 23.01.06 at 12:47:48:

Maybe for a very short time petium 4 mobo's support agp 1.0 which are rare if any at all. DDR wasn't the main player in 1999 or 2000, it was SDram. I remember the change well, going from EDO ram to SDram. DDR wasn't common until like 2 years later.

Well, AMD jumped on the DDR-train earlier, Intel switched from SDR first to RD-RAM (RAMBUS) but after they understood that RD-RAM was too expensive they got on the DDR-train, too. That's why there are so few chipsets which support P4, SDR-RAM and AGP3.3V.
Furthermore Intel changed their CPU-sockets in that time more often (from socket 370 to 423 and then to 478) while AMD stayed at their socket A (462) so older chipsets could support newer CPUs with a simple BIOS-update. The KT333 which can support AGP3.3V supports officially up to XP 2800+ so in theory you can combine a XP 2800+ with a Voodoo Banshee, a Voodoo 3 or a VSA-100 based card easily.

As you can see in the thread linked by NitroX Infinity there are many AMD-mainboards which support DDR and AGP3.3V. If you don't need so much graphics power but more CPU power than 1 GHz or something that could be a reasonable combination.

There aren't many Intel P4 motherboards around supporting AGP 1.0 and DDR because when the P4 came out, Intel had a contract with Rambus because of which they were only allowed to use and support RDRAM and not SDRAM. Intel started supporting DDR around 2002 when AGP 2.0 was readily settled in. Up until that time, third-party manufacturers like SiS and VIA did make P4/DDR/AGP1.0 chipsets.

I think you've been looking too much at P4 motherboards with Intel chipsets.

Edit; lol, seems I was a bit too slow with typing :D

Hey dude .I know these guys are experts in the field of Voodoo's ....but Ive had a history myself with motherboards and right now .the one that Ive been totally convinced that is very compatible with a "V5 5500" and has a universal AGP slot is a
"Soltek SL75DRV5-C" there is an earlier version with out the "C" and im using it on back up which ive had no problems either but I bought it used and on Ebay and has caps about to burst hehe ..so Im going let this one die out before the main one ..... in another thread i saw where someone else recommended this brand .but not highly recognized for its performance ...so check it out .maybe EBay has some listed again :)
P.S.
  i happen to have 4 of these motherboards im so convinced they work :)

Thanks guys for the info but ended up picking up another ECS K7S5A from a friend who upgraded and didn't need his any more (he's not running 3dfx at all and got a AMD 64 bit board). So now I don't have to reload the whole thing either with the exact same board going in to it, which is cool.

wrote on 24.01.06 at 03:04:53:

Thanks guys for the info but ended up picking up another ECS K7S5A from a friend who upgraded and didn't need his any more (he's not running 3dfx at all and got a AMD 64 bit board). So now I don't have to reload the whole thing either with the exact same board going in to it, which is cool.

I had a Voodoo5 5500 AGP in that board for a long time. My only complaint was about once or twice a month I would lose the BIOS setting on boot up ???

I flashed to Cheepomans BIOS which allowed me to OC my 2400+ to the 2600+ specs but still continued to lose the BIOS settings.

Did you ever have that problem?

Sorry Nitrox. Didn't mean to bark back. It was a misunderstanding.

It may have sounded like I said that agp 1.0 and P4s don't exhist, thats not what I ment, but it may have came out that way and when I mistyped 'is' when I ment isn't, and then you fired back. You may not have ment it to sound frugal but it came out that way, and I barked back at you.

I know a lot about hardware, but not everything, just like the other post you said the 8500 had a core speed of 275mhz, mine is only 229.5mhz (but 275 may be true because there are like 4 or 5 types 8500 cards). I didn't know about Pentium 4 mobos with a agp 1.0 slot, and I was like what the heck? I didn't say they didn't exhist, but they are rare, like how agp 8x and pci-e 16x motherboards are rare, just aren't common, which is why jandarsun probably asked here.

I am no expert, and I forgot to mention I appreciate you telling me they do exhist, and I don't want you to leave because I came off on the wrong foot. I hope we're still cool -?

No one knows everything about everything, maybe certain subjects, but humans are imperfect (in my case mispelling and I don't know everything about the vast pc hardware, most things thou). My ex meteorology teacher didn't know there was deserts on Hawaii -not until I told her. I am sure you, gdonovan, falconfly, obi, and a handful of people I didn't mention know almost everything about 3dfx, certainly more than I, but I do know a bit, usually what (technology) I find interesting and whats common.

thats why i stopped using the ECS K7S5A  bio settings just dissapeared  , so  i got a ga-dxe to replace it . only goes to 2100+ but its rock solid !

wrote on 24.01.06 at 07:00:12:

Sorry Nitrox. Didn't mean to bark back. It was a misunderstanding.

No problem, I like it when people bark back, allows me to improve my conversational skills ;D


Quote:

It may have sounded like I said that agp 1.0 and P4s don't exhist, thats not what I ment, but it may have came out that way and when I mistyped 'is' when I ment isn't, and then you fired back. You may not have ment it to sound frugal but it came out that way, and I barked back at you.

Actually, I'm probably wrong here but, I think there aren't any P4 motherboards with AGP1.0 slots because the P4 was available since November 2000. At the very least they have Universal AGP slots which support both AGP1.0 and 2.0.


Quote:

I am no expert, and I forgot to mention I appreciate you telling me they do exhist, and I don't want you to leave because I came off on the wrong foot. I hope we're still cool -?

Why would I leave? Because of an argument? I like arguments every now and then, they spice up things. I see no reason not to be cool :)

NitroX, IG88 don't know what to tell you guys, I've never ran into that problem and I've been/ was using my old board for a while. I've also got a K7S6A using a SIS 745 chipset instead of the 735 like the 5A's and that'll run DDR 2700 with an AMD 2600+ just fine along with running 3.3V AGP. Haven't had any problems with either boards. Who knows what'll happen with the board I just got, but we'll see. So far I've pretty impressed with them.

Another chance at one of my favorites ;D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6842857266&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1

ok, watching this one too. Gamma, you planning on bidding this? Don't want to take this from you if you are.

wrote on 25.01.06 at 05:15:26:

ok, watching this one too. Gamma, you planning on bidding this? Don't want to take this from you if you are.

No interest in it. I have too many motherboards now ;)

That's cool man, like I said, I'm getting my friends board but don't know how long it'll last and would like to have a spare board that will handle the voodoo's but wanted to check with you first.

Good luck to ya on that one. I found another but the starting bid is higher. You might want to keep an eye on it as the first one might bid up high. It's good to have options ;)

http://cgi.ebay.com/EPOX-8K3A-SOCKET-4-MOTHERBOARD_W0QQitemZ6843257479

wrote on 25.01.06 at 04:18:36:

Another chance at one of my favorites ;D http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6842857266&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1

Nice board But mine had a bad IDe Controller and leaking Caps, I'd ask better and sharper pics first from the seller before purchasing! Really Bad IDE Controllers arn't easy to replace with trembling hands :-/ neither are leaked capps.

Question here, do all VIA Apollo 333 chipsets handle the Voodoo's? Was looking at a different board that has this chipset on it but says that it's a 4x AGP slot and will only do 4X agp cards.  

VIA® Apollo KT333 North Bridge VT8367
VIA® VT8235 South Bridge  

Just trying to keep  my options open here so thought I'd ask.

keep your eyes open for another Epox 8k3a board please, got outbid the last 10 seconds of the auction and clicked on enter a split second after the bidding stopped. Kind of p*ssed actually. Anyway keep an eye out for another one please? Thanks guys.

You still watching this one...

http://cgi.ebay.com/EPOX-8K3A-SOCKET-4-MOTHERBOARD_W0QQitemZ6843257479

Thanks man.  ;D

Sold for a good price. You changed your mind? Found another?