Okay, vote time.  This includes all 3dfx users for ALL cards.  
Out of your experience from your machines, which processors have you had the most success out of (while using your 3dfx card in that machine)?

Some of you may not have tried more than one brand of CPU, or some may feel there has been no difference. But vote accordingly:

1. Intel
2. AMD
3. Other
4. Not noticed any difference between any, can't side.

definitly #2  ;D

Athlon rules..

My AMD Athlon. of course  ;D

Intel Pentium III all the way  8)

I'm using a duron 700, and it definitely sucks

but soon an athlon XP 2400+ will come to unleash the power of my voodoo5

Ever AMD with my V5 5500!

looking also forward to upgrade from my athlon thunderbird to palomino 1800+ or so..

hehe, what choice I made (AMD) is available for public view in my Network Page ;)

I did use intel's before, but that pretty much stopped after upgrading my Pentium II 400MHz to my first AMD Athlon, a long time back.

1. MOS 6502 1.1 MHZ (VIC20 - 3K sux)
2. MOS 6510 985 KHZ (C64 - 64K rules)
3. Siemens 8086 10 MHZ (Olivetti M240 XT)
4. Harris 80286 20MHZ (Turbo 25 MHZ) Really NEAT ;D
5. UMC U5S 50 MHZ (486SX Clone, real 50 MHZ-no 25X2)
6. ST486DX2 80 MHZ
7. Intel 486DX4 100 MHZ (My only Intel CPU)
8. AMD K6 200 MHZ (My only Intel Chipset) TX 3V  >:(
9. AMD K6-2 350 MHZ
10. AMD K6-2 500 MHZ (Thank you Falconfly)

Regards,
Andreas

P.S.
When i think about my problem with the Voodoo² on VIA's VP3 and the trouble with the AGP Voltage on new boards you should better ask with which chipsets we had the most succes.

[glb]nudgegoonies[/glb]

There's always one. ::)

Janskjaer ;D

AMD & 3dfx there is no better combo!!!

anyway that is my opinion.

Have three PC's and they are all armed with AMD CPU's.

PC1

FIREFOX

Dual AMD AthlonMP 2200+  2x Thoroughbred-A ;D
ASUS A7M266-D Rev 1.04
1x 1GB PC-2100 ECC Reg. Twin Moss
Hercules 3D Prophet 9700 Pro

PC2

GRADINKO

AMD Athlon64 3200+  Clawhammer
Shuttle AN50R Rev 1.3
2x 512MB PC-3200 Elixir
Connect3D Radeon 9800 Pro

PC3

SVETA

AMD AthlonXP 2700+ Thoroughbred-B
ASUS A7V333-R Rev 1.02
1x 512MB PC-2700 NANJA
Leadtek WinFasy A250 ULTRA TD GeForce4 Ti-4600
3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI 64MB Rev A1 2900 :P

PC4

GASAAP

AMD K6-2 500 @ 550
EPoX EP-MVP3G2
1x 128MB PC-100 & 1x 32MB PC-100 Samsung Original
3dfx Voodoo3 3000 AGP + Composite TV-Out Rev C 5199

Never had big problems with neither of them, having AMD as my favourite CPU brand, Intel will never get in my way  ;)

My twin V2's were tested in...

My AthlonXP 2400+ ... WORKED! ;D

They now live in my Dual P-II server and STILL kick A$$! 8)

As for my uncle...

His V5500 AGP tested in...

AthlonXP 1800+ ... WORKED ;D

Now resides in Intel Celeron machine. :D

(note, both of these 'moves' were due to changing the GFX card in the original system to a Radeon...and I KNOW that my V2's would work with a Radeon, but I keep re-installing my catalyst drivers WAY too often! Whatever!!!) ::)

Nuff said! :P

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looking also forward to upgrade from my athlon thunderbird to palomino 1800+ or so..

Don't get a Palomino, Thoroughbreds run so much cooler, and there's a possibility of them being unlocked...sorry, in overclock mode tongiht  ;D

I definately think AMD kicks a$$, wether it be with or without a Voodoo. My V5 used to be right at home with my Palomino 1800+ (hence my advice above), but unfortunately, being the fastest thing I have, I needed real DX 9 support, so I got a Radeon 9500. My V5 will soon make it's home with a P3 850, a large step up from the P2 350@467 that it used to be in, but it will never be the same as with the athlon.

hehe, already done, read system specs..you're right, the thing runs crappity smackin hot, but i had to buy one 'cause my former mobo didn't support t-breds..anyway i unlocked the cpu with one of those little conducting pads (attacked on the bridges with some tesa. but as you see i can't get the thing higher than 1.6GHz before it turns down (that's because it is from the first production weeks & was meant to be the leading edge)
now I'm looking forward to buy a barton. ;D

;D Mine's still locked, and I got it to 1.73GHz@151FSB, although it isn't there any more because I messed up the thermal compound, and I didn't have any good stuff to replace it with.  I also got bored and rewrote the name string, that's actually from dxdiag.exe, slightly photoshopped to get the appropriate info.

so there's no way to clock this model to 166fsb? i haven't tried yet, because i was more careful when the thing crashed at 1.66GHz via multiplier...so 151fsb is the highest clock still stable? i bet i got problems with such an fsb, 'cause my pci clock isn't locked to 33MHz.. :-/

wrote on 20.02.04 at 14:44:10:

so there's no way to clock this model to 166fsb? i haven't tried yet, because i was more careful when the thing crashed at 1.66GHz via multiplier...so 151fsb is the highest clock still stable? i bet i got problems with such an fsb, 'cause my pci clock isn't locked to 33MHz.. :-/

I could have gone higher, but the temps were starting to worry me (49C Idle), I've got a CoolerMaster heat sink at the moment, and I was using the thermal compound that came on it.  It was still very stable and at stock voltage, so I've got a Volcano 9 on the way, along with Artic Silver 5, so I'm sure it'll probably go higher once I've got the right equipment. As for the PCI clock, I don't think mine's locked either, all you can do is pray that everything goes okay, but it isn't increasing it that much anyways. At 151FSB, the PCI clock is like 37MHz.

Actually, the main reason that OC gurus love to modify the multipliers so much is to lower them! By lowering the multipleir, they've found it takes enough stress off the CPU so they can raise the FSB much higher, which not only makes the CPU run faster, but all the PCI/AGP devices also!

wrote on 20.02.04 at 15:52:33:

Actually, the main reason that OC gurus love to modify the multipliers so much is to lower them! By lowering the multipleir, they've found it takes enough stress off the CPU so they can raise the FSB much higher, which not only makes the CPU run faster, but all the PCI/AGP devices also!

yeah, i know that, but:


wrote on 20.02.04 at 15:52:33:

...but the temps were starting to worry me (49C Idle)...

:o my cpu goes to 65°C!  (but therefore my system is ordinary silent  ;D )and it's still stable @ 80°C (evently this only appears on die-hard o/c)! don't worry about this temperature, as the palomino has an internal temperatur diode which reflects it very exactly & you know, palominos are known to be stable up to 90°C.
but that's the point why increasing the fsb worries me --> i don't want to try the hard way  ;)
2^nd point is the pci/agp clock: i don't want to crash my soundcard or my gfx this way

so what do you think, is increasing the fsb by, let's say, 5-10MHz still stable?
hint: I'm using an arctic cooling copper silent 2 (cools up to 3400+), my ram is also overclocked via timings (not by clock)

wrote on 20.02.04 at 16:57:21:

:o my cpu goes to 65°C!  (but therefore my system is ordinary silent  ;D )and it's still stable @ 80°C (evently this only appears on die-hard o/c)! don't worry about this temperature, as the palomino has an internal temperatur diode which reflects it very exactly & you know, palominos are known to be stable up to 90°C.

Internal diode? I don't know anything about this, the only diode I know of is the one placed under the CPU, inside the square area of the socket. At stock speed, my Palomino runs at about 30C (about room temp in my house). It's got a gigantic aluminum CoolerMaster heat sink, which I imagine helps, but the shitty little 60mm fan on the top doesn't really.

EDIT: It used to run at 30C, before I messed up the thermal pad and replaced it with Radio Shack compound. Now at stock speed it's at 42C.


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but that's the point why increasing the fsb worries me --> i don't want to try the hard way  ;)

Every CPU is different. Depending on the week, the design (core), the temp at the plant at the time of manufacture, and the condition of the silicon used, each individual CPU will have different limitations, even under the same cooling and everything.


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2nd point is the pci/agp clock: i don't want to crash my soundcard or my gfx this way

I personally have never had an issue with sound or video, although my old Netgear NIC caused some problems while overclocked, so I replaced it with an SMC and never had problems since. Also, my P2, when I raised the BUS on the 350 from 100 to 133, the PCI/AGP divider didn't support this change, they stayed stuck at 1/3 and 2/3, so my AGP BUS was 87MHz and PCI was
44MHz, and that never had any issues either. It was using a Voodoo 5 5500, 3M NIC, Netodragon 56k modem, and an Creative Labs Ensoniq AudioPCI.


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so what do you think, is increasing the fsb by, let's say, 5-10MHz still stable?

Only way to know is to find out  ;) But those temps are very concerning.


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hint: I'm using an arctic cooling copper silent 2 (cools up to 3400+), my ram is also overclocked via timings (not by clock)

I don't know much about OCing ram, because I got 166MHz ram anyways, so I'm all set. I would take a look at replacing your thermal compound, since your cooler itself doesn't seem to be an issue. Poor thermal transfer can lead to pockets of heat, which would give results like you're getting.

well, i used the thermal compound delivered with the cooler (so it's arcting cooling stuff, no silver)
what do you use to read out the temerature? if you use your bios the temperature isn't exactly, you know. take a look at aida32 or the mbm, they should also read out the internal diode. i saw a difference of 10°C when reading the temperature with the internal diode! so your temperature might be also 10°C higher..
anyway, i got also DDR333, but i set the CAS Latency from 2.5T to 2.0T which sets free 100MB/s more (setting the waiting sd-cycle to 1T instead of 2T gives another 100MB/s) and my kingston ram can handle that.
i overclocked the pci bus some 2 years ago on an old socket7 mobo (set fsb to 75) and their was no go anymore...well, i suppose pci components are able to clock higher nowadays  :)

I just realized this is getting way off topic. I use PCAlert 4, which came with my MSI K7T266Pro2-a, it monitors temps and fan speeds. I have mbm somewhere, I'll see what it does, but I think it will probably give the same readings, I'm not aware of any processors having an internal thermal diode...google time I guess.

;D ;D
well, every athlon has a temperature diode since the palomino was introduced.
yeah right, off topic  ::)

Okay, I found some info on the internal thermal diode. I still don't know where the readings are being taken from tho, the CPU or the mobo, cause I think at least that the mob has a temp sensor under the CPU. Oddly enought, atm PC Alert reports my CPU temp to be 42C, whereas MBM 5 reports 37C. Both report 30C as case temp (room temp, since my case is all opened up atm).

Back to what CPU we have.   :)
AMD 2600+ (oc to about a 2800+)
AMD 2400+
AMD 2100+ X2 (ones in the server)
AMD 1800+

For price/performance definately going towards AMD. Not to mention I can still use my V5 in a newer board. What I'm really waiting for though is a AMD 64 FX chip in the new boards with PCI Express and DDR II. Then we'll see these things scream.   ;D