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Message started by bat21 on 13.08.04 at 12:00:22

Title: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by bat21 on 13.08.04 at 12:00:22
HELLO GUYS!

       well , im writing to tell everyone there`s one more person who`s fallen under the "voodoo" spell! after buying a used gateway for my daughter i found a voodoo banshee inside ,after asking a friend about it@ work he said it was nothing specail,then asked me to sell it to him!! ive visited here several times looking for up`d  drivers and ive gotten hooked you guys(and gals) are great! but one question, can anybody list all  of 3dfx`s cards from the company`s start  to its  end ?? if there is anybody who can help i would be very thankful!!  i think i will start collecting voodoo cards and the beggining is the best place to start!!  hope everyone is well!  by

                                 bat21

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by NitroX infinity on 13.08.04 at 12:59:33
Listing all cards is nearly impossible since there are so many different manufacturers who sold 3dfx-based products.

This site has loads of info though:
http://www.no-x-files.webz.cz/3dfx.htm

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by bat21 on 13.08.04 at 13:16:44
hello again!


      wow :o    you guys are fast!!!  i do appreciate you helping out the"new guy" so fast,one more question ,the voodoo banshee ive got p#6001005 has had a little problem running fighter ace 3.5,i mean it doesnt  hang or anything but the fusalodge of the planes (all of them...) have almost a prizm affect when backgrounds and backdrops all look great,any ideas  ???    thanx again for the link and the awsome response  ;D ;D

                  bat21

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by paulpsomiadis on 13.08.04 at 15:02:17
If you post your P.C. specifications and the O.S. you are using, we can recommend the best drivers to use... ;)

Oh and glad to see a new face in the Voodoo scene! :D

WELCOME! 8)

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by R21vo on 13.08.04 at 17:48:59
bat21: welcome! ;)

Quote:
i think i will start collecting voodoo cards and the beggining is the best place to start!!

I think it's easier to collect everything you can get..

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by bat21 on 16.08.04 at 09:51:25
whatsupeeguys,

                here are the specs you asked for , gateway 750(p3 , slot1,750mhz) intel ws440bx  , voodoo banshee -gateways p#  on the banshee is 6001005 thay have pics on the "vood" @ there spot if that helps,  the funny thing is after doing a little research  @ gateway i found out this box originaly  came with a tnt2 card   :( but lucky enough someone added  a little joojoo ;D  oh the os is windows 98se    ;)almost dropped that one    thanx for the help 8)  later!


                                              bat21

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by paulpsomiadis on 16.08.04 at 23:43:19
Go to the driver page of the archive here: -

http://www.falconfly.de/banshee.htm

And download these drivers... :D

"Raziel64' s Evolution Driver Version 1.00.00.Beta"

These are the latest available beta drivers for Win9x systems... ;)

GOOD LUCK! 8)

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by bat21 on 17.08.04 at 17:21:23


hey thanks for the hit , ive installed the driver but im having sone lock up probs with it  ill let you know whats up when im done flippin it around :-[maybe i can  do something with it .......which may take some time considering my limited skills :-[ thanks to all for the help!!!

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by voodoo5500 on 17.08.04 at 19:27:54
@bat21,

Welcome to this great forum, there are many friendly knowledgable people/collectors here to help with any questions you may have.

Here's a quick & dirty list of chronologically released 3dfx cards :

Voodoo 1
Voodoo rush
Voodoo 2
Banshee
Voodoo 3
Voodoo 4
Voodoo 5

Up to the voodoo 3, 3dfx did not manufacture cards, thus a large quantity of vendors (Diamond, Creative, Orchid etc) licensed 3dfx reference design's/gpu's.

Around the voodoo 3 era 3dfx abandoned this business model (and partners)  ??? and decided to acquire a board manufacturing company (STB), and began exclusively producing there own branded boards.

If you go to General discussions > Who collects 3dfx cards on the board? you will get a very good start on all the different variations of cards (released and prototypes  ;)

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by NitroX infinity on 17.08.04 at 20:15:17

wrote on 17.08.04 at 19:27:54:
Up to the voodoo 3, 3dfx did not manufacture cards...

Wrong, 3dfx also did a V2 1000 :)



Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by voodoo5500 on 17.08.04 at 21:31:15
@NitroX infinity,

You are technically correct, 3dfx did produce a branded voodoo 2 card.

The point I was trying to make in my post was that starting with the voodoo 3, 3dfx changed there business model and were not licensing there technology to former/previous business partners. From what I have read in various articles this change in plans was in hindsight a really bad decision, it tied up money and caused substantial delays in upcoming/future product release dates which as we all know contributed greatly to 3dfx's demise.

If I remember correctly 3dfx released this card much later than other company's voodoo 2 offering's.

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by NitroX infinity on 17.08.04 at 22:12:32

Quote:
The point I was trying to make in my post was that starting with the voodoo 3, 3dfx changed there business model and were not licensing there technology to former/previous business partners.


Wrong again ;)
Several companies made Avenger (V3) based products and Napalm based products ;D

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by paulpsomiadis on 17.08.04 at 23:07:07
@NitroX is correct, after all there IS an MSI Voodoo 3 based mainboard! ;D

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by gdonovan on 18.08.04 at 00:15:36
And Asus and Powercolor made V3 and V4 products for sale in the markets outside the USA.


Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by voodoo5500 on 18.08.04 at 00:56:42
Ok, my use of "exclusively" in a previous post was somewhat misleading and it would have been better worded as "almost exclusively".

Except for what ? a handful of board makers/products after the STB acquisition, 3dfx wanted and did take control of the board manufacturing/sales side of the business.

3dfx's success came from focusing there efforts/resources on selling there technology to business partners, not wasting it trying to operate and maintain a board manufacturing facility also

Non 3dfx manuctured/branded boards produced after this acquisition = Trivial

Interesting 3dfx articles:

http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=412
http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=413
http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=414

@NitroX infinity,

Your right, I neglected to mention these other cards  :-[

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by bat21 on 18.08.04 at 08:30:08

 ;DTHIS IS WHY I DROP IN WHENEVER I CAN ALL THESE PEOPLE WILLING TO SHARE INFO   .....AND NOT CHARGE   IVE LEARNED MORE IN THE LAST FIVE MINS THAN A WEEK OF SEARCHING    ???  question though 3dfx`s demise ,   was internal or was it the competition???  and back to the board i have  creative banshee  is there a pci excel. card that can attach to mine to improve performance??? i saw one on ebay and was gonna take a run @ it  i think it said it connected to an agp card     will check further     ;Dhope everyone`s  well     later 8)

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by NitroX infinity on 18.08.04 at 11:47:01
@Bat21:

3dfx' demise was caused by both: internal they made some bad decissions, external they couldn't keep up with nVidia's agressive production tactics.

As for the second thing, you could hang a V2 on there but I don't know if you'll see a performance increase.

Title: Re: ALL OF THEM IN ORDER!!!
Post by bat21 on 18.08.04 at 13:24:42


      really...... :'(   i was looking for a solid reason togo after it     ::)   owell ill do it anyway atleast it will add to my stash    nastalgia being what it is and all.....you said v2 ???   guy on ebay lists it as a voodoo 1000 pci   same thing? or more wishful thinking  on my part?


  sellr on ebay just got back to me and relisted it as a voodoo2 1000 pci with a 34 pin header on top ,also got some #`s  

                s50-422v-02rev2    #s on primary chip marked 3dfx    500-0010-01
                       d60314.00be
                       9803-2004   taiwan 1001  

   standard board right? it seems im gonna have to figure out how to read these #`s so i can tell one from the other :-/
                                                   
                   

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