Ok, most of us will not be moving to Vista anytime soon, well I know I won't be. However, was reading something about DX10 and how it's not going to be able to be installed on XP. Here's the problem. If game developers start requiring you have to have DX10 installed, like they do with DX9, what do you do? Just not buy any new games or breakdown and spend the 400$ on a new OS?

I think this is conspiracy by both MS and gaming industry to force Vista upon us all! Damn them!!   

Anyway, wondering what you guys thought.

well,about dx10,I would really bother thinking about it-just take a look at todays games,they are only starting to use true dx9c code-dx10 is waaaaay too far away in the future.dx10 games are not going to happen anytime soon,and by dx10 games I mean REAL dx10 games,not just some lame patches that will add a bit more lightning to the game if you have vista and dx10 graphics card..

vista-lovers (and haters as well),I would suggest you read this: http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html

did I mention having vista and dx10 installed on an old pc such as yours has absolutely no meanig? oh,I just did .you are not able to use your 6800 with dx10 now,and you will never be able to.

sorry to say it,but you totally wasted 169euro..


edit: sorry for being extra spicy today,but my adrenaline is extra high,I had a small visit from a little thiefsie fool,and he took one older pc I had over here for repairs,mmmmmm,too bad I know who he is,and I'm going to waste him good,mmmm yes I will,my preciousss..

Well here's what I'm getting at. If you install any new game as it is right now, it requires DX9c to be installed even if you only have a DX8 based video card. Regardless of what card you actually have, you still have to have DX9 installed. So if games start requiring that you used DX10 regardless what hardware you have in the machine in order to install it what's going to happen?

Are game companies going to have an optional install where it determines what OS your running and only install components that you'll need?

Yeah, I'm just looking at NOT having to use Vista any time soon. I went through the beta testing on both release candidates and a couple of revisions and the OS sucks. Not to mention ATI had the drivers messed up and completely fried two of the three x850 pro's I had (120$ they were cheap!  ). ATI replaced them but still, it was a hassle.

That's my concern. I realize this probably won't happen for a year or so but...

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why having "almost the full speed" if you can have "full speed"? especially if you can have "full speed" by NOT buying the new OS? that means "full speed" will cost you exactly 0$.and you cant beat that price,can you?

that trash they have pounded into vista will always hog your hardware,and be it 1% or 10% slowdown,its still an unnecessary stress on hardware..

and this is NOT a matter of hardware drivers.just read through the stuff I have linked..

I just got a copy as a gift and don't plan on loading it anytime soon.

My fastest machine is a 3.2 Intel P4 with AGP X 8. I have a X850 but I'm afraid I'll smoke it on Vista.

Should I wait until I get a PCIe motherboard?

DX10 is surely used (as usual) to create a break-point between Vista and previous Versions at some time.

I wouldn't touch Vista behind 12-inch armoured Glass with robotic Arms in a nuclear waste processing facility.

I assume, however, that Game and GFX developers will run 2-fold and press MicroSoft at least for further DX 9.0c updates to include many of their new Hardware features, since Vista is coming along very slow and many will never use it.
After all, an OS which is controlling, hampering and spying upon the User (rather a client who payed alot for a piece of contentrated malware) is not acceptable for everyone.

I'd say buy whatever Hardware is desired and run it with Linux, Win2000 or XP...

well I'm gonna get it. but not very soon.
because dx 10 graphics seems to be nice. I want to use it too  when I have dx10 videocard