While I was runn'n through the net I came accross thsi cool card for people that still play thier stuff on the AGP bus

ATi Radeon X1950 Pro AGP x8 256MB GDDR3


http://it.news.hu/f.php?mod=40&id=401889

and here the source of this wonderfull info

you van make a Pre-Order here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/ATI_AGP_Graphics_Cards.html

GeCube is the first to bring this baby out and finally a nice card to put against the Geforce 7800GS AGP and Gainward 7800GS+ BLISS Golden Sample which is actually a GeForce 7900GT AGP


- Powered by ATI Radeon X1950 PRO - 575MHz (RV570 80nm)
- 256MB-256bit 8 channel GDDR3 memory - 1.38GHz
- 36 Pixel shader processor
- Ultra-threaded SM 3.0 Engine
- 512-bit Ring-bus
- HDCP Ready!!
- Low power consumption (Consumes 60W less than equivalent X1900 XT)

This card will be an exellent upgrade for ATi users on the AGP bus I am planning to get one too w00t!

yeah me too, my Athlon XP 2700+ is gett'n old, for very little money I can get the following parts

MSI K8T Master2 FAR7 VIA K8T-800 Pro chipset also supports dual core Opterons

2x Opteron 248
2x 1GB PC3200 ECC REG a Corsair XMS Platinum TwinX set.
ATI Radeon X1950 Pro AGP

got all the rest here it's like built that in set everything over and install it and play around with it, and those parts are very easy to find on ebay and so on, it doesn't have to be new or so the only new part would be the X1950 Pro AGP and maybe the memory


then FSAA + HDR + AF on the AGP bus is gonna be joyfull too

Well I had it's predecessor the MS-9130 K8T Master2-FAR for 2 years it never crashed NEVER.

MSI is well known of mak'n stable SMP boards, and these are good gamer SMP boards not cheapo Single CPU boards

The dutch site http://Tweakers.net runs on MSI server boards without problems, they have a very good reputation here in The Netherlands. I know quite alot of people with MSI and they never have or had problems, it's just that some dweebo's just can't config a PC Properly there by blaming the Motherboards brand or CPU and stuff lol

Just because it's branded with MSI it doesn't mean that's a bad board, that's just pure BS, MSI is also a very recommended A brand for SMP motherboards, since they are dead stable and can have alot of stress.

ABiT, ASUS, EPoX and Gigabyte are good too but mostly the MSI's have the higher score with pure speed and stabillity for cheaper but solid SMP sollutions. And if Money isn't your problem there is always Super-Micro,Tyan and the MSI WorkStation & Server class series

It's the chipset and layout that intrests me the most, VIA is well knowns of good drivers today, just install the latest Hyperion 4in1 driver and done it works not problems and what so ever, there are no problems with hard drive failures like with some crappy nForce chipsets, and also it's a pretty basic budget Workstation board and it can be seen as a highend Gamer board, depends on how you see the situation and on what you are gonna use it for

here a topic thread about this board:
http://forums.2cpu.com/showthread.php?t=66276&highlight=far7

I used to have the MS-9130 K8T Master2 FAR1, but this board seems to have been the better choice and I am willing to find one for the X1950 Pro AGP Card

It's gonna be my FS 2004 Flight Training System for the B744 aka Boeing 747-412.

Anywyas to get to the topic The X1950 Pro is indeed a very atractive piece of hardware, I'm really looking foreward to obtain it see what ATi's RV570 has in it's armament

I'll keep this topic updated for newer info and pics of the X1950 Pro AGP and let's hope for a nice 512Meg version as well

@ Gary

the X1950 Pro AGP might be the perfect ourcome for you as wello, then you would only have to upgrade from your X850 Pro AGP to a much faster X1950 Pro AGP

exactly, it the perfect sollution for many people that still make usage of the AGP bus And believe me the most people still make usage of the AGP Bus and Not PCI-Express as most people think they do

yeah cool hay,hay! better late than never my friends, Crikey this is cool.8)

that is the same way I think about my AthlonXP 2700+ it has a leadtek geForce 6800 AGP in it now, I recieved that from a good friend for free so normally I'm not alloud to complain there, which is very obvious.

but since there is this RV570 AGP com'n out why not ? it's always better than the 6800AGP 128MB I have now right

@ Jandarsun8

good move

I coudl sell my 6800 to my mom or dad haha like they really need it but my dad says if it makes may PC faster sure, so like your idea hehe, economicaly speaking And yes ATi's are more than welcome in my systems 8)

yeah same a meah heh a 512Meg AGP card would kick butty bigtime

I suppose they they will be reverse AGP x4, x2 and x1 compliant would be fun to test on very old systems too just to see what happens LOL like a Pentium3 650Mhz LOL hahahaha This is gonna be alot of fun 8)

oh good news for who that have the R580 aka X1900 series

here's a fantastic Space Screen saver, packed with High Dynamic Range, Depth of Field Blur, Motion Blur, Soft Reflections, Soft Shadows, Pixel Shader and Vertex Shader 3.5 effects to the max
http://ati.amd.com/developer/demos/rx1900.html

Why ShaderModel 3.5 since that HDR & FSAA are combined

it really astounded myself on what a single X1900 XTX can do, man some parts in this tech demo were like Crikey it's so realistic!
As the screensaver gave me such a perfect impression of what a Comet/Metiorite is like in flight close up or how a supernova is created by an exploding star, heh when that happens you get blinded by the High Dynamic Range effect!

Anyways it's a real must, if there are lads with X1800 cards I'm quite sure it will run on those as well since an X1900 class can do the same as an X1800 class, the only thing is that the X1900 XT 256/512 /XTX have 3 times the PixelSHader Processors the X1800XT 256/ 512 have, but I'm quite sure it will work 8)

heh about the P3 experiment, it did work with the following cards in AGP x2:

ASUS AX800XT Platinum Edition AGP 256MB GDDR3
XFX GeForce 6800GT Dual DVI AGP 256MB GDDR3
Leadtek GeForce 6800 AGP 128 MB DDR
Hercules 3D Prophet 9700 Pro 128MB DDR
Club 3D Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB DDR
Connect3D Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB DDR
Gigabyte GeForce FX 5700 AGP 128MB DDR
Leadtek GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB DDR
Leadtek GeForce3 Ti 500 64MB DDR

all cards worked in my sister's Pentum3 650Mhz on the EPoX EP-BX3 board setup, the system only has 3x 128MB PC-100 SDRAM LoL

Why I test this, just to see if even an AGP x8 card will work stable in AGP x2 mode as AGP x1 mode, well these all passed I'm quite sure the X1950 Pro AGP surely do fine

The there's the AthlonXP 2700+ with AGP x4 which isn't a problem for all cards.

Anyways to get back to the X1950 Pro AGP, I quite think that card will fit in nicely since it was exactly what was missing like a missing link idea. Can't wait to see one inaction even by this time of day an high End AGP card is always something great to experience with