No clues just yet as to what it is... ;)

(It isn't 3Dfx related though, so that's why it's in the "This & That" area) ::)

Stay tuned... ;)

wrote on 12.09.06 at 01:38:10:

No clues just yet as to what it is... ;)

Me too, have to wait till I gather a few more pieces before dropping any clues ;-)

Ok, question here. If neither one of you two are dropping hints on what your doing, but "your doing something", isn't that a hint to begin with? :P Just thought I'd ask about that one.  Paul, if your planning on a hostile take over of Nvidia (AMD already got ATI) let us know about it before hand though, k?   ;D

hey Paul just use a nice Abrams Tank ;) That should work out fine ;D
VOAAAP!
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_M1A1_Baghdad_Currum_Ago_lg.jpg

wrote on 12.09.06 at 06:06:31:

Ok, question here. If neither one of you two are dropping hints on what your doing, but "your doing something", isn't that a hint to begin with?

Just what I'm up too I'll not give clues yet, but when I collect a few more parts I'll start posting a picture or two  ;D

Just in case people begin to speculate... ::)

I have no idea what @Gary is up to and he has no idea what my 'something' is. :P

They are separate 'something(s)'. :D

wrote on 13.09.06 at 01:59:08:

I have no idea what @Gary is up to and he has no idea what my 'something' is. :P

'tis true, Paul has no idea, nor I what he is up too.

The suspense is killin' me.

30 days before Christmas (or was it the 3dfx closure) Now that was exciting. I would check the web page every morning to see what was being revealed.

LOL Well, you both should have just kept your mouths shut about the "somethingy's" cuz now you've got us all interested it your "thingy's".  LOL   And no, that's not as bad as it sounds, I'm ingaged for crying out loud. hehehe.   ;D    

I know, just took a turn for the worst there.....

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interested it your "thingy's"

"Well isn't that SUPER!" - Big Gay Al from South Park ::)

LOL! ROFL! LMAO! ;D ;D

wrote on 13.09.06 at 07:02:17:

I'm ingaged for crying out loud. hehehe.   ;D     I know, just took a turn for the worst there.....

So did you set the date??

ROFL!!


We kind of set the date to a "someday" status. We'll get married but when..... we're not sure yet. Neither one of us is in a hurry. I didn't spend 1400$ on a ring for nothing and I don't see her going anywhere any time soon so things are cool.

Besides, we've got paul's "thingy" and gdonovan's "somethingy" to look forward too.  LOL LOL

I was just going to say, Buy the V6K first. Once your married, all the priorities change.

yeah possibly, or just don't get married just buy more V6K's instead ;D ;D ;D 3dfx 4Eva! w00t!

ROFL!! Yeah, my thoughts exactly!!  ;D  (Well at least about buying the V5 6000 first hehehe)

I'm gonna get in trouble for drifting this thread off topic :-X

Anyone got some pics of "something cool they're working on" ;)

Well at least it's better then asking for a picture of anything else.   :P

well I'm work'n on my ATi R580 CrossFire Project and it's gonna PWN Quad SLI lol.

got the Sapphire X1900 XTX now soon I'll add a nice Sapphire X1900 CFE card and then soem extra ram aka 2x 1GB , just because the prices are dropp'n crazy over here :).

since the X1900CFE cards are about 340 euro's now, just wait when they hit the 300 mark , then make my strike 8)
Just want smooth effects @ 1680 x 1050 x32 with Adaptive FSAA x14 & AF x16 + maxx HDR effects for the upcom'n Flight Simulator X and Dark Messiah Might & Magic.

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ATi R580 CrossFire

B!TCH!N' 8)

wrote on 14.09.06 at 19:31:00:

Anyone got some pics of "something cool they're working on" ;)

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/16044-1/sciwo_motherboard.jpg

Well, that looks to me like a, a..... a motherboard? Could be a very big video card, but nah, I'm guessing motherboard.  :P

heh a Dual PentiumII/!!! or Pentium II/!!! Xeon based board which could obtain a max ram of 2048MB ECC Reg PC-100/133 with the Intel i440GX chipset for SMP.

Looks like an EPoX or MSI branded board.

I'm guessing @Gary's 'something' is either Quantum 3D related or Primary Image related... ;)

...both of them used dual CPU boards in their systems. :)

As for mine...it'll be one or more weeks before I have the PSU for the 'thing' I'm building. ::)

It's essentially finished, but I've got it hooked up to an old AT PSU at the moment - which works but looks untidy! :P

Well for my firend's 1995 Colt GTi we got this sweet Gearbox :) http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300026755540

a Mitsubishi 4G63 Eclipse GS-T Turbo gearbox :) after that we are gonna get a Lancer GSR 1.8 195 bhp Engine and with those parts we are upgrading the Colt GTI to a Colt GSR :) 0-100 kph in 5.9 sec, just by weighing 1040 kilo's and with a 195 bhp 1.8 L :)

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/16188-1/power_supply.JPG

These darn things are so hard to find =)

hey it has a turbo! w00t well hmm looks like you are building  another PC or Workstation Gary LoL  ;D

wrote on 27.09.06 at 03:45:50:

hey it has a turbo! w00t well hmm looks like you are building  another PC or Workstation Gary LoL  ;D

Indeed, but what kind? ;-)

SMP based so more like a workstation or a server for your website to host it on, I sense something like that mate :)

Uhm, Gary, are you building a Piranha or Barracuda system? ::) ;D

wrote on 27.09.06 at 10:27:01:

Uhm, Gary, are you building a Piranha or Barracuda system? ::) ;D

Nay, though I did consider it.

Primary Image sold just boards as far as I can tell.

Load testing the power supplies now- I have the KT-266 platform with an AMD 1800+ running Quake3 in a window with a V5-5500 with everything turned on while Toast loads the cpu at 100%.

So far the voltages look stable.

Those are good PS I have one just like it only mine is "Black"

Is that a Tyan MB?

wrote on 27.09.06 at 16:39:19:

Those are good PS I have one just like it only mine is "Black" Is that a Tyan MB?

I had to look for some time for the proper "silver" units.

Yes, it is indeed a Tyan motherboard.

hmm is it a system for the Quantum3D AALchemy 4116 Gary ? ;D

wrote on 27.09.06 at 17:09:07:

hmm is it a system for the Quantum3D AALchemy 4116 Gary ? ;D

Nope.

Yeah, I think we'd all like to see that one running someday ;)

yeah I wonder if it can do FSAA x4 & FSAA x8 like the 8164 can :) since a Merc setup can do FSAA x2 & x4 even Motion Blur, I wonder what that 4116 has in petto, we all would wonder this  8)

um, kind of confused on the power supply. Isn't that a regular ATX PS? What's the difference between that and something you can buy off of the self (serious here, what's the difference?)?

wrote on 27.09.06 at 22:41:05:

um, kind of confused on the power supply. Isn't that a regular ATX PS? What's the difference between that and something you can buy off of the self (serious here, what's the difference?)?

The power supply brand, color and rating are required for my project  ;D

It's all about the specs.

Normally the 3.3V- and 5V-rails at a PSU around 430 watts have about 25-30 Amperes but this PSU has 40 Amperes each at the 3.3V- and the 5V-rail but "just" 20 Amperes at the 12V-rail (for comparison: a Seasonic S12-430 has 30A each at the 3.3V- and the 5V-rail but two 12V-rails with 14 respectively 15A).

Does the hardware need such a high amount of power at the 3.3V- and the 5V-rail? Or do you build another system which has been sold in that configuration with that PSU?

wrote on 27.09.06 at 23:02:42:

Or do you build another system which has been sold in that configuration with that PSU?

Close, very close.

I'm assembling a system that was to be sold and had been seen in prototype form.

Is it another Merc' system? ???

==EDIT==

Just looked at your MERC "games tested" page and noticed you had some problems getting U.T. 2003 to start (at all). :P

There 'is' a software driver for U.T. 2K3 or 2K4 (can't remember which just yet...) ::)

I'm away from my main PC at the moment - but I'll have a look when I get home and update later! ;)

Is it a Q3D system?

AAlchemy 4xxx anything to do with it?

wrote on 28.09.06 at 00:22:45:

Is it a Q3D system? AAlchemy 4xxx anything to do with it?

Yes and no, not a 4xxx system.

a setup for the Voodoo5 6000 Rev.A1 1500 or isn't it 3dfx based?

unless if it was meant to be sold then a 6K wouldn't be it either, hmm it is something from Quantum 3D let's see, it has Dual Pentium !!! S.E.C.C.II layout board, an intel chipset might be i820 or iGX440 something in that direction?

Anyways it is SMP based, dunno if it is 3dfx or nVidia based heh

No, it would not be fully compatible with the 1500, Intel based chipset remember?

oh yeah true there hehe :) hmm Voodoo3 based then? or Voodoo 5 5500 AGP + DVI based :) heh too many odd idea's I have LOL ;D

That's quite a few hints, Your gonna give it away ;D

yeah you got a point Gamma742, I'll zippit then hahaha ;D yeah dodido ::)

Not you Obi :)

We're just guessing, Gary's dropping the hints. Like yes and no to the two part questions.

I'd rather figure it out by pics. Like piecing together a puzzle ;D

Hmm...so it's a Q3D 'case' but without Q3D hardware... :o

Anyhow...for your MERC games section - I found the UT2003 'software' renderer. :D

There's some INI configuring involved...but it's simple stuff! ;)

GO HERE: -

http://unreal.epicgames.com/oldnews4.htm

Search the page for "pixomatic" and download the ZIP file with the driver. :)

Good luck with running UT2K3 on the MERC! ;D

wrote on 28.09.06 at 00:31:56:

Yes and no, not a 4xxx system.

There's only one other system I can think off that would require such a PSU. And I simply refuse to believe that you have 4 AAlchemy 8xxx cards :-X

not an AALchemy 8464 setup you would need a totally different PSU and PSU setup for that ;) do remember that the 8164 needed a speacial PSU, "A serious warning though as the power supply for the video board is rated for 75 amps @ 2.9 volts, it has 75 AMPS on the 2.9V feed which is the core feed for the 8 VSA-100 chips.", though there are newer based ones with later based power up modules true there, but still if you want to power up 4 8164's as an 8464 setup you would deffintiely need alot more than just a single 425 watt PSU ;)

wrote on 28.09.06 at 02:54:27:

Hmm...so it's a Q3D 'case' but without Q3D hardware... :o

That does narrow it down a bit 8)

I also remembered this heh :-X

Gary wrote the following:
"I'm assembling a system that was to be sold and had been seen in prototype form."

The NitroX Infinity asked if it is a Quantum3D system as his first question:

wrote on 28.09.06 at 00:22:45:

Is it a Q3D system? AAlchemy 4xxx anything to do with it?

1. Is it a Q3D system?

his second was:
2. AAlchemy 4xxx anything to do with it?

So Gary answers with

Yes for question 1 and no for question 2 ;) Look:

wrote on 28.09.06 at 00:31:56:

Yes and no, not a 4xxx system.

The Paulpsomaidis asks:

wrote on 28.09.06 at 02:54:27:

Hmm...so it's a Q3D 'case' but without Q3D hardware... :o

and till then no answer, so what I think it is is the following:

It is a Dual Pentium2/3 based rig since it has Dual SECC/SECCII connectors, it can house up to 4x 512MB PX-100/133 or 4x 1024MB PC-100/PC-133 ECC REG ram modules, since that some duallie P2's and P3's could house a max of 2GB or 4GB depends of what board you have.

It does have a True AGP x2 3.3 Volt slot, so maybe an Avenger based card will go there since Avenger & Pentium3 were from the same time.

But yes Gary did use a Quantum3D Case, why this I do not know maybe that Quantum3D was mak'n 3rd party systems as well or they were planned to do that but that never came past the Final Prototype Field tests.

This is just my vision of things dunno if it true though, leave that to Gary I will my friends.

Woops!

Sorry guys I did make a mistake, NitroX infinity did guess correct.

It is a 4xxx based system.

;D

heh the 4116 then it is since that is the only 4xxx card Q3D has afaik :) Yes the Quantum3D AALchemy 4116 ofcourse! thats it!

[glb]Crickey! AALchemy's Rule![/glb]

wrote on 29.09.06 at 12:48:15:

heh the 4116 then it is since that is the only 4xxx card Q3D has afaik :) Yes the Quantum3D AALchemy 4116 ofcourse! thats it! [glb]Crickey! AALchemy's Rule![/glb]

Hmm... Could it be? Didn't that one require a special PS too ???

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Woops!   Sorry guys I did make a mistake, NitroX infinity did guess correct. It is a 4xxx based system.

Hmm...you falling asleep at your keyboard again @Gary? :o

Mind you, with all the site updates you've done recently - I'm not surprised you're sleepy! ::)

Hey Paul give him a B52 that should do it ;D haha Crikey!! I had like 2 of them this night plus loads of beer w00t!! hehe I rekon it is an AAlchemy 4116 sys, since it is 4.xxx based :)

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/16295-1/testing_motherboard.jpg

Motherboard came in today, so far so good!

Still need to find the right CPU's  ;D

My secret project will be revealed by next week... ;)

I have the final components on the way from eBay... ;D

...stay tuned! :D

wrote on 03.10.06 at 00:50:42:

My secret project will be revealed by next week... ;)

Most excellent! I still have a few odds and ends to obtain.

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/16298-1/motherboard_burn_in.jpg

Motherboard seems to be working nicely- A bit of a stress test with OpenGVS demo running with one copy of toast at the same time.

100% CPU usage!

I sense a greatness in The Force from your side Jedi Master Gary.

The graphics card you are useing is deffintely a 3dfx Voodoo4 4800 AGP 64MB + TV-out & DVI,inless it's a normal 4500 AGP ofcourse hehe, But I have a feeling since it's so speacial it would be a greater chance that it is the 4800 AGP.

Why and how could I see that it's 4800, I will show you :)

http://www.quickload.hostingvision.com/images/85444800%20card.jpg

sorry for my crappy writing, but it should be clear enough on what I mean, 2 places for 32MB of ram each place devided bay 4 SDRAM chips ;) the place for the VSA-100, the DVI, the TV-Out, even the VESA connector is visable also on the same place as everyother 4500 AGP, since a 4800 has exactly the same PCB layout, it only houses the extra 32MB ram, which consist of 4 SDRAM modules, it also has the DVI and the TV-Out as extra.

Your second screenshot Gary reviels a 3dfx logo in the taskmanager, rather obvious you installed 3dfx tool right to have that ;)
http://www.quickload.hostingvision.com/images/92063dfx%20tools.jpg

The back of that card looks im my Jedi Master Eyes exactly looks like this one:

Top View:
http://www.quickload.hostingvision.com/images/1739IMG_2618.jpg

Back of a normal 4500 AGP just to get the idea of the layout, just think in the parts of the 4800:
http://www.quickload.hostingvision.com/images/54923dfx%20Voodoo%204%204500%20AGP%20Back.jpg

I may have some old PIII 450s if you need them ;)

wrote on 03.10.06 at 04:57:06:

I may have some old PIII 450s if you need them ;)

Need a pair of 800's

They will show up on Ebay, just have to be patient.

Nice  :)
similar to what i`m running Dual 1ghz , v4500 , 768 ram
550 watt power , scsi drives

he well I do have something up my sleeves as well :)

Project Outcast :)

Something powerfull from like the year 2000,  it is SMP based.

wrote on 03.10.06 at 11:53:52:

Need a pair of 800's They will show up on Ebay, just have to be patient.

WooHoo :o Another hint ::)

The 'reveal' of my secret project will be this week... ;D

...I have to write up a little 'making of' article so you guys know what went on while I was making 'the project', so it may be either tomorrow or Wednesday. ;)

Pictures will also follow - but it depends on when I can get the film developed... ::)

==EDIT==

Sorry for the delay guys - I've just had a new 2MB Broadband line installed and have been setting-up my PC. ::)

I'll try and get some of the article written tonight... ;)

Well it's with great pleasure that I finally unveil the 'secret project' I've been working on for the last month.

So how did it come about and what is it?

Read on and find out...

THE INSPIRATION
==============

Rewind to about one year ago and I was walking home after a shopping trip to the local supermarket.

As I got about a couple of feet away from the gate to my house I found something just lying on the pavement - a 1.5 metre length of bright red acrylic (plastic).

So I picked it up and stored it in my downstairs lobby...

...months passed and it gathered dust - my Mum visited from Greece and told me t throw it out...but I didn't.

Something was nagging at me... "I must be able to use this for 'something'!" I thought.

Then it finally dawned on me...

We all use our super high powered PC's to browse the 'net and download TONS of gigabytes of data every year.

But with high speed comes high costs in power - in the case of my gaming rig 450W of power.

So I figured "Wouldn't it be great if I built a ultra-low power PC that uses <50W of power, but I can use it to browse the net and do all my downloads on."

So I decided to use the red acrylic to build a case - and the idea was born!

THE SEARCH
===========

Everything depended on getting the right mainboard - it had not just to be small, but absolutely TEENY!

I scoured eBay and eventually found an industrial mini board called the WAFER-5820. (233MHz Cyrix 'pentium class' equivalent)

It was being sold by a Guy in Australia for about £40 (turns out that this was a total steal too - as buying one of these NEW for an industrial factory can cost £400 per mainboard - yikes!)

I won the board along with it's metal case and it arrived a fortnight later.

Other components soon followed...

256MB IBM SODIMM RAM PC133 - ironically the mainboard chipset has a 128MB limit, oh well - at least it's IBM RAM.

40 GB Maxtor 3.5" HDD (salvage) - a friend of mine had an old Maxtor with some bad sectors. The cool thing about these drives is that AFTER a low level format, all the bad sectors are gone - so I did that and they were...NICE!

QSI DVD/CDRW combo drive - cheap on eBay, the eject button was broken - so I ripped the plastic front off the drive and put a new access LED and eject switch on. Works perfectly! (even if it looks rough)

Floppy drive - standard fare, nothing to see - please move on!

Keyboard and Laser Mouse - spare ones, had them already.

Monitor - my old gaming monitor, not too great in comparison to my new one - but fine for web browsing.

I had enough to assemble and test the machine...but then came the first problem...

TEENY BOARD - EVERYTHING TEENY!
==============================

After actually looking at the board I found out that all the pin headers for HDD, Floppy, Sound, USB, etc... all had mini pin headers - the same size as those found on a laptop HDD.

The solution was simple - but painstaking! I had to build all of the leads that attached to the mainboad myself - by hand!

The problem of the mini-pin headers was solved by going to my local Maplin (electronics) store and buying three 2.5" HDD adapter leads. Then I spliced up the leads and soldered them onto various other leads (standard HDD, Floppy, Audio, etc...) to create all of the leads I needed for the project.

All the leads are insulated with heat shrink to stop short-outs (none of that - nasty shorting wires!). I also built a custom audio header to allow sound from the built in AC97 compliant chipset.

So with all the leads built and checked (no crossed wires) I assembled all of the components on my dining table and installed Win XP to test it out. After a LOOOOOONG and boring wait for XP to install - it worked perfectly! (although I had some of the audio wires back to front - a quick re-solder and it was fixed!)

Then comes the case...

SAW, SAW, GRINDY, FILEY, BANG, CRASH!
==================================

Building the case left absolutely no room for error. I worked out (even more amazingly) that the 1.5m piece of acrylic was 'just' enough for the whole case (I ended up with about 30cm to spare - which was mostly used to space out the drives in the case, leaving just a 10cm long 30cm wide piece remaining).

I used a sideways cutting drill to slice up the acrylic - not very precice, but I've not got a dremmel (I'd like one...but just never got round to buying one...).

Once the four sides were complete, I bought some plastic guttering (for covering wires on a floor) and used it to attach the four sides together withscrews and bolts and measure the two ends. The ends were soon cut and it was time to drill / cut the holes for the mainboard and drives.

This was a pain in the arse - I eventually thought of putting some small screws and bolts onto the mainboard for 'legs'. Then I estimated where the holes for the mainboard ports would go and cut / drilled them out. After a bit of filing - everything eventually fit into the case!

Cutting the holes for the drives was quite easy - two square holes. One for the floppy and one for the combo CDRW/DVD - short and quick!

So it was in the case - but now I needed a PSU that was also teeny AND power efficient!

ZAP - POWER UP!
==============

I thought about mini-itx computers and the PSU's they use. An external laptop type 'brick' and an internal power converter.

But they were still too big!

Enter the 'pico-PSU' an absolutely weeny teeny 12V to 120W DC-to-DC power converter board (the size of an ATX mainboard power connector!)

PERFECT - I snagged it and a 12V laptop PSU (which only draws 36W from the mains) from eBay  - and an ATX power extender lead. As the Laptop PSU only draws 36W, this achieved the <50W limit!

After chopping up the extender lead to attach it to an on/off switch at the front of the case, I was set!

Or so I thought...

THE INCIDENT
===========

So here I was mere seconds away from finishing - all I had to do was to put the poewr socket for the laptop 'brick' into the back of the case. Problem was that the hole I drilled was a little snug...

"Hey, I bet I can tap this in with a hammer!" I thought...

TAP, TAP, TAP...

"Cool it fits!... . . .Huh? What's that?"

And to my horror I'd created a big crack across the back of the case - GRR!

Although it didn't affect the operation of the machine - and the case is so sturdy it holds together even WITH the crack!

Ah well...

THE FINALE
=========

So yesterday I finally get my own 2Mb broadband line (no more sharing with my Uncle on his 1Mb line - wheee!)

I configure my port forwarding on the router - fire up 'u-torrent' and the 'Wafer PC' is finally doing what it was intended!

I've taken some pictures - but I have to finish the film and get it developed!

I'll edit this last post with the links to the JPG's once I have the film developed...

THAT'S ALL FOLKS!

wrote on 12.10.06 at 02:32:18:

I'll edit this last post with the links to the JPG's once I have the film developed...

Yippie!

Quote:

Yippie!

LOL! Yeah, I know it's not that exiting due to lack of pictures... ::)

...but I 'could' have used a webcam for 'instant' pictures. :P

However I decided to use a 'proper' camera for some 'nice quality' shots. ;D

As excellent- My 800's with matching Intel heatsinks came in today  ;D

So far, perfect operation.

congrats Garym but uhm what are ya gonna use Dual 800's for, abit slow for Vista hehe

for that Voodoo4 4500 system? Or was the 4500 just to test it?

Anyways it sounds like an old Dual P3 800E Coppermine setup, can't wait til the finishing toutch :)

Vista? eww.

Dual boot 98SE/Win2000.

The 4500 is just for testing.

I still need to get the correct drives and backplate.

Anyone know  how much to ship a ATX backplate from Germany to the states?

Should be no problem mailing in a regular number 10 business envelope.

Anyone in Germany lend a brother a hand?

shouldn't be more than 4 euro's Gary really, maybe alot less , just don't let them send it via DHL, Deutsche Post is far cheaper otherwise TNT is a very good option, my Familly in Lunde % Osteradde told me this, it's near Heide , North Germany to be precise..

Normal airmail is fine.

One of my new CPU's is no good, darn it.

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nou, he's working on it Hold yer Horses everyone :) ;D

http://www.risawn.com/blog4/horse.jpg

LoL at pic.

Yo, I didn't know Michael Jackson had a cousin! :o

SUPER LOL! ;D ;D

hahahahaha ahuuh!! check it's teeth iieeuuww  ;D ;D ;D

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/16952-1/system_ram.jpg

Two sticks of ECC ram...

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/16943-1/system_backplate.jpg

Correct ATX backplate (Thanks OB1!)

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/16949-1/system_nic.jpg

Intel 10/100 Pro NIC

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/16946-1/system_floppy.jpg

Sony Floppy drive...

Hmm... That reminds me, I better start my search for a V5 packplate for my new V6K.

Show us some more :o

CD-Rom will be here next week, some other add-on cards are on the way...

hey Gary about the Back Plate, I'm sure you should have a Voodoo5 5500 AGP or PCI card lay'n around with a suitable sollution there  8)

And No prob's bout the Back Plate mate, always willing to help out when possible ;)

Hmm.. the manual states I should have no problem running 256 ECC modules but it seems to have other ideas...

Installed the second optional OS tonight, so far so good...

hmm 256MB ECC modules is quite normal for a Dual Pentium3 mobo gary, a friend of mine had a SuperMicro 370DE6 which could take 4c 512MB PC133 ECC Reg Max okay he did have a Socket 1 aka Socket 370 based mobo since yours is Slot 1 orsay S.E.C.C. 1/2 4x 256MB ECC Reg is quite normal, I think 4x 512 would be possible with a bios update ;)

My ABiT VP6 can have 4x 512MB ECC Reg as well, so ir's normal that it can take 4x 256 ECC Reg. hehe 8)

Actually most BX PII/PIII boards don't, all the BX board I have here do not.

Maybe later chipsets but not most BX. GX does with no problem...

I'm not sure Gary can help me with the "BackPlate" but I'm pretty sure I can get the "Tail Support Bracket" from him.

I'm recharging my PayPal account now ???

Just give me the word Gary and I'll transfer the necessary funds ;)

@off topic
Brrrr! I gotta go scrape the frost of the wifey's windshield.

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/17025-1/q3d_iron_2a.jpg

he-he-he

Greetings! Surfing the 'net with a triple 200SBi powered IRON system tonight ;-)

NT4 sure can be cranky accessing the internet through a home network system.

Gary

P.S. Not what this thread is about, just stopping in while working on the Iron system...

hahah nice one you really got me frozen for a short moment ;D

I hope your [i]"Spectre Project aka Invisible Project" will be a greatness of succes!  8)

Ah, another part came in today and I found out the network card I had was wrong! No fear as I figured out the correct one and happened to have it on the shelf =)

hah a woops Gary ;D
was it the Intel Pro 100/ S Desktop Adapter you needed ?

I use one of those btw, they are one of the best Ethernet adapters I have used togeather with the 3-Com 3S905TX-M 8)

All set on the adapter, it would be cool to get an intel driver disk and manual... hmm.

Anyone have a manual and disk for a Intel Pro 100+ ?

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/17029-1/system_running.jpg

Up and running...

nice SMP system :) 2x 256MB PC-100/133 ECC Reg from Micron ?

two sweet Pentium!!!/E 800Mhz Slot 1 CPU's heh nice Gary :)
Still see no Network adapter hehe :) You could use an AWE 64 Gold in that board too  :o The best Midi card out there w00t

wrote on 22.12.06 at 11:06:03:

nice SMP system :) 2x 256MB PC-100/133 ECC Reg from Micron ?

For the moment, needs two sticks of 128 MB PC-100 to be correct.


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Still see no Network adapter hehe :)

Fooled me at first to- It's in between the sound card and Ultra100 drive adapter.


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You could use an AWE 64 Gold in that board too  :o The best Midi card out there w00t

Could but won't- What is shown is correct down to number of internal connectors and color codes =)

ah nice, what Operating system are you gonna use ? Windows 2000 Professional I ashume?

if so here is the latest Creative Sound Blaster Live 5.1 drier package :)
http://ccftp.creative.com/manualdn/Drivers/Others/1925/LiveDrvPack_Patch.exe

My AXP 2700+ has the same SB as you and this driver rocks, all 4 speaker's go'n fine :)

Win98SE with optional Windows 2000 in dual boot.

hmm didn't know that 98SE would run on an SMP system though :-X afaik 98SE doesn't support Dual CPU or Dual Core

wrote on 22.12.06 at 21:55:39:

hmm didn't know that 98SE would run on an SMP system though :-X afaik 98SE doesn't support Dual CPU or Dual Core

Of course it runs on dual-CPU, dual-core, quad-cpu or quad-core systems. No problem, it just uses one CPU/core. Nothing more, nothing less :).

wrote on 22.12.06 at 22:20:33:

Of course it runs on dual-CPU, dual-core, quad-cpu or quad-core systems. No problem, it just uses one CPU/core. Nothing more, nothing less :).

Correct- As far as the OS in concerned there is only one CPU. It simply doesn't "see" the other.

For my project, Win98 was standard with a second OS available via dual boot.

hmm thanx for that info, then I can finally think of creating and building  a dual AMD AthlonMP 2200+ - 2800+ dunno what CPU is available just have to ask around for that ;)

This system will get a nice Tyan Tiger MPX mobo and as total upgrade from this AthlonXP 2700+ I am using now, it should be able to run modern things alot better too.
Win98SE is very helpfull when flashing 3dfx cards which I learned from you Gary ;)

I wish you all the best with your project Gary ;)

wrote on 22.12.06 at 23:04:27:

I wish you all the best with your project Gary ;)

Thanks, slow but steady will get the job done.... just a few more pieces...

I'm quite sure you will get there mate 8)

Wow, this page took like a minute to load with my 486 laptop, hah!

How many MHz is it?

wrote on 28.12.06 at 02:52:51:

How many MHz is it?

75mhz with 20 megs of ram and Win95.

I was going to use it for a "on all the time" print server and downloading machine but my torrent software doesn't seem to like it for some reason.

Oh well, back to plan A- Build a 200mmx system into my computers power strip =)

@Gary use u-torrent. ;)

It has a teeny memory footprint and will run on just about anything! ;D

Only problem... :P

An error message that won't go away... ::)

"Cannot save resume file, some data may be lost"

Even though the error is CLEARLY a load of bollox - as it keeps on downloading anyhow! ::)

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/17762-1/nic.jpg

Correct Intel NIC.

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/17765-1/hd_drive.jpg

Correct Quantum LM 20.5 hard drive, perfect condiction, no bad sectors.

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/17768-1/dataexpress.jpg

Brand spanking new DataExpress via Ebay =)

http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/17771-1/drive_installed.jpg

Installed, just finished Ghosting the setup drive to its new home a few minutes ago.

You'all should have an idea where I'm going at this point ;-)

Gary, on those old quatum drives, just letting you know, at my old work of about 3000 pc's, we had about half running on those things, most of them Win NT and were the 4 gig config's but at any rate, about half of those, roughly around 750 pc's we ended up replacing the drives on because of, and I might be wrong on what chip it is, NEC chip. I don't have one in front of me to tell. Just thought I'd let you know. If you plan on using this thing all the time, get a different drive. On some of those case, you could take the whole circuit board off of one hard drive and slap it on another drive and have it come back up but it had to be the exact same size with the exact same revision on the board. You'll notice it pops because you can actually hear it and it smells up the whole room.

Just thought I'd let you know. Looks like it's a 20 gig drive? Might not have a problem with it, most of the ones that did this were in the 4.2 to 10 gig range so just keep an image of it updated regularly.

wrote on 27.01.07 at 18:22:32:

If you plan on using this thing all the time, get a different drive.

Well this project requires this P.N. drive,  I could have something else in another drive shuttle just in case..


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Looks like it's a 20 gig drive? Might not have a problem with it, most of the ones that did this were in the 4.2 to 10 gig range so just keep an image of it updated regularly.

Yes, a 20 gig, easy to keep the ghost image about in case something goes bad and I have to find another.

well I have done some nice upgrades too today :)

1x Seagate Barracuda V 120GB 7200,7 RPM HDD
1x Kingston TwinPack 2x 512MB PC2700 DDR333 Value Ram
1x Sennheiser PX200 Headphones :)
http://images.tigerdirect.com/itemDetails/S302-1068/S302-1068-call1-sp.jpg

Sveta has a nicer config now :)

AMD AthlonXP 2700+
ASUS A7V333-R Rev.1.02
1x 512MB PC2700 DDR333 Samsung Origiunal
2x 512MB PC2700 DDR333 Kingston Value Ram [New]
ASUS AX800 XT Platinum Edition AGP 256MB Rev.A 0441 [new]
3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 PCI 64MB Rev.A1 2900
Creative Labs Audigy2 Platinum eX [gift from dad]
1x Seagate Barracuda V 120GB 7200.7 rpm [New]
1x Sennheiser PX 200 Headphones [New]

this system is for old style 3dfx games as later ones like FarCry, Fear & Call of Duty2 and mainly for music & videos.