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Message started by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 07.02.06 at 00:49:37

Title: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtained!
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 07.02.06 at 00:49:37
Yeaps Finally I got the card I always have wanted for yearts, though it was hard to find, but thanx to Osckhar I got my last goal :)

here is the card I have obtained today from the mailman :)


I will make more pics tomorrow in nice 7.2MP format and some nice Combo shots of the 3 Voodoo5 AGP cards and combo shot's with other 3dfx cards I have here.

So I'll keep in toutch And Special Thanks goes to Osckhar !!! Bello my friend Bello!


Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by gamma742 on 07.02.06 at 03:21:02
I like the memory layout. That board is slightly smaller than the 5500 right?

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 07.02.06 at 03:27:18
Yeah the memory layout looks very neat on this card compaired to all the other cards I've seen, it's older companion the Voodoo5 5000 PCI, that one looks like it's from another world, that card is totally different in layout and length, it's 24.5cm like the Voodoo5 5500 AGP and PCI. :)

here the Voodoo5 cards and their lengths compared to a GeForce4 Ti4600
[The Ti4600 has a normal card length of today] :)

My Leadtek GeForce4 Ti4600 AGP x4 128MB DDR = 21.2cm long

3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4 32MB = 21.5cm long
3dfx Voodoo5 5500 AGP x2 64MB = 24.5cm long
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP x2 128MB without extension bracket is 32.50cm long and with the extension bracket 35.5cm long!

Man that V6K dwarfs the V5K all the way in mem size and card size as well :-X

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by gamma742 on 07.02.06 at 03:43:02
Yeah I like this cards memory layout the best 8)

It's just way cool ;D

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 07.02.06 at 22:53:45
Well Ihere are some fresh 7.2 Mega Pixel shot's as I have prommised :)

here a close up of my great find ;D
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6883-2/DSC00919.jpg

here the nice Top View of the Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4 man I just love it's SGRAM layout :P
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6874-2/DSC00912.jpg

and here the back view of this great design :)
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6877-2/DSC00914.jpg

here my favourite 3dfx Prototype cards togeather :)
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6892-2/DSC00924.jpg

I hope you all will enjoy my High Res Shots :) Go here for more!
The Voodoo5 5000 Prototype

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by gamma742 on 08.02.06 at 03:23:10
Nice pics. If you feel like taking anymore later, It would be nice to see it next to a an AGP 5500 if you have one.

WOW! 3 "NOT FOR RESALE" stickers on it :o

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 08.02.06 at 15:23:58
No problem Gamma742 :) I have the Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4, Voodoo5 5500 AGP x2 and the Voodoo5 6000 AGP x2 :) How would you like the shot?

So now I'm trying to find out what driver would be best for this card under Windows 2000 Pro.

The drivers that don't work are the following:

Original drivers that failed:
3dfx Voodoo4/5 V1.04.00

3rd Party Drivers that failed:
AmigaMerlin 3.0XP Final
SFFT Alpha 33 no support

As for x-3dfx 1.08.04b + Amiga Merlin 3.1 R11 combined as one driver I have a succes! in 2D so I'm very well on the way My friends!

The Card boots perfectly in 16, 256 Bit, 26 Bit as 32 Bit  colours to the windows desktop and the cards also boots perfectly with Bios 1.15.

So here my results for so far :)

at first I had this error many times :-X lol
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6919-2/V5K_Helse_detection_error.jpg

and after removing that driver everything was back to normal, so if AmigaMerlin 3.1 R11 does work with some people under XP and X3dfx with some people under 98SE :) I came up with an idea that might be a sollution to all of us Voodoo5 5000 AGP and PCI users :)


At first I installed x-3dfx Voodoo4/5 1.08.014 beta I did get that error but I ignored it and rebooted after reboot I installed the AMigaMerlin 3.1 R11 driver installed the Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4 as "AMIGAMERLIN 3.1 R11 For Napalm " and rebooted and this is what happened, abosultely remarkeble it works in a combined state lads YeaH! ;D ;D ;D ;D

here the Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4 installed as Napalm on the EIZO T662 20" CRT :)
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6921-2/V5K_on_Eizo_T662.jpg

and here the FSAA x4 setting.
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6924-2/V5K_FSAA_x4_setting.jpg

and as you can all see the combination of both drivers is clearly visable!

As far as now 3D is not working in Windows 2000 Pro + SP4, 2D is working like a charm, though the OpenGL screensavers from Win2K Pro are working and they are 3D, which is odd. ANyways I think Windows 98SE is the prefered OS for the Voodoo5 5000's the card is just very Beta and I just can't get 3D to work in Win2K Pro+ SP4 and XP Pro +SP2 but 98SE has no problems at all, as do all other Voodoo5 5000 AGP and PCI cards.

If anywone does have an idea for my Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4 to work under 2K Pro Please let me know.

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by gdonovan on 08.02.06 at 21:37:24
Use the last non-beta 3dfx drivers under Win98.

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 08.02.06 at 22:53:45
Well after installing those I rebooted and I get a black screen, so they arn't working wither :-/

oh well maybe my card has conflicts or so, still odd that it worked in 2K in such a mixed driver mode.

I'll give the latest x3dfx drivers a shot and see what happens, I'll keep you updated.

Update

and again the black screen, Oh well I think I'll install 2K again, this is getting me nowhere, thanx for the help though.

I don't know why I get a black screen and that my system hangs imediet when the Black screen comes, does anybody know what that may be?

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by osckhar_3Dfx on 08.02.06 at 23:17:55
@Obi,
Try with the original 3Dfx driver. It worked very well for me -Everything perfect in 2D/3D mode.
Perhaps, You will need a fresh installing (Win98SE)  if you have installed many 3Dfx drivers.

Oscar

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 08.02.06 at 23:31:03
Hm I have started with the orginal 3dfx driver that is the problem it started there, after installing the latest original 3dfx driver the card was installed as 3dfx Voodoo series well after that system rebooted and I recieved a nice dark black screen and a crash right after that, so I went to safe mode and removed that driver and went on with the latest Beta driver from 3dfx also a nogo and then after removing that one the latest x-3dfx driver, but still the same problem

So I'm going back to Win2K Pro for V6K gaming with AM3.1R11 and I am willing to give the V5K another shot in 2K by adding the Voodoo5 5000 AGP in the inf file and then after that save the file and install the card and hopefully that will work.

But Hey I'm not sad or mad or so hehe, this card still makes me very happy to have and hey it did show some proof of opperation right!! Let's stay possitive there :)
May The Force Be With Us All.

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by osckhar on 08.02.06 at 23:35:22
Ok, I will try again with my V5 5000 under Win98Se. I keep you informed!

ps. Nice catch Obi! ;)

Oscar

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 08.02.06 at 23:38:56
oh well I'll just stick to Win2K Pro It's just my favourite OS  and that system was meant for the V6K anyways, and I did a nice 7 hour V6K test run today with Tactical Ops @ 1024 x 768 x32 with FSAA x4 and x8 no problems there It was a smooth ride all the way after that some Red Alert2  and some Films and still no crashes so it's not the system that causes the problems I think the V5K is too unstable and it's a prototype with a Rev.A0 PCB so it may not be wierd at all things like this can happen.

Well it seems to be that my Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 has a broken SLI and this card used to be from BOingball before Oscar had it :) anyways it might have been one of the first Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4's ever made since that other 5000 AGP x4's do work , I suppose the first ones were less stable in main flight.

Anyways thanx to all that helped me out here anyways @ least I did play Red Alert2 on it , but even that wasn't a great ride after an hour the V5K crashed.

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 09.02.06 at 13:20:32
UPDATE Jedi's!!!!!

Man there is finally some light at the end of the tunnel :)
Now I have the Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4 in another system with  an ASUS A7V333-R Rev.1.04 mobo I used Amigamerlin3.1 R11 as the driver and KoolSmokey's Voodoo Control for the tools :) I have added this line in the .inf file in the AM 3.1 R11 driver path:

AMIGAMERLIN 3.1-R11 For Voodoo 5 5000 AGP" = 3dfxvsv5,PCI\VEN_121A&DEV_0009&SUBSYS_0006121A&REV01 AGP SG 166 NOTV NOLCD (AGP V5 5000)

and there by installed the Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4 manually and by installing it as AMIGAMERLIN 3.1-R11 For Voodoo 5 5000 AGP !!! and yes that worked with errors this time! thanx to the people @ 3dfxzone.it for this great note!

The after reboot no funny black screen and after that I started up V.Controll well the card runs default @ 166Mhz like all other 5500 and 6000 cards normally would except some Intel and A3 cards but hey it's working :)

So Thandor gave m,e  the idea to try this on the my other AThlonXP system and Nightbird from 3dfxzone.it gave the idea for that extra line to add that manually in the AM3.1 R11 .inf file and I had the idea to use the 5000 AGP x4 in Single chip mode :D and yes I got the 3dfx Donut working!! this is great under XP Pro + SP2 but in Dual chip mode no 3D Acceleration but just a black screen so that means this is the card with the broken SLI and yes this card was once from BOingball he told me that he had this card so he was right about the whole broken SLI thing afterall :)

So here some screenshots , they seem somewhat dark but ingame it's much lighter :)

Here the famous Menu of Unreal looks nice :)
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6930-2/Unreal_Menu_on_V5K_AGP_Single_chip_1024_x_768_x16_Glide_Max_details.jpg

and here an ingame shot Level 2 :)
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6927-2/Unreal_shot_V5K_AGP_Single_Chip_1024_x_768_x16_max_details.jpg

Anyways after all this work I never had the idea I would get it working in XP heh oh well now to find out how and if it can be repaired for SLI finction if there are people that may know how to find this out or are willing to repair it if there is a way, I'm not sure if a Broken SLI can BE repaired in the first place , but then again I am willing to hear you all out.

Got some better news my friends!!!


First I installed 98SE on my Other AthlonXP system and I used the latest 3dfx WHQL driver and 2D is like a miracle :)

CTX 1569 on 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGP  in 98SE :D

So both VSA-100's do run at 166mhz I really never knew that I had like 143Mhz in mind like that the 5000 would of been the budget model of the Voodoo5  familly.

But thanx for your tip I will keep that in mind, now Gary did say that this great card will work with the latest original WHQL driver from 3dfx Interactive so that is what I've done.

here my Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4 rig:

AMD AthlonXP Barton 2600+
ASUS A7V333-R Rev.1.04  VIA KT-333 chipset Bios 1017
1x Kingston Value Ram PC-3200 @ PC-2700
3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 with 6ns Samsung SGRAM
1x Seagate Barracuda III 30GB 7200 rpm

Win98SE + UnOfficial Service Pack 2.03 NL
3dfx 1.08.0.14 WHQL Drivers

So now I will continue installing this rig and I will keep you all updated!

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 09.02.06 at 21:44:53
and the days just get better and better :)

Finally with that setup the card works the way it should do :)

with Windows 98SE NL + Unofficial Service Pack 2.03 [2.1a dutch version] and Official 3dfx Ver 1.08.0.14 WHQL Final for Voodoo4/5 and the card runs like a Harvester over a Cornfield !!!! Yiiiii haaaa!!! Just another Classic 3dfx Moment !

here the pics in Unreal ver 2.26 in 3dfx Glide @ 1024 x 768 x16 with FSAA x4 :) The FSAA isn't that visible because of the BMP to JPEG Converter I used in Windows Imaging.

Here the Intro Screen man that's something good from our good ole times everyone :P
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6936-2/Unreal_226_on_V5K_FSAA_x4_1024_x_768_x16.jpg

Level 2 in the canyon
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6933-2/Unreal_226_on_V5K_AGP_x4_FSAA_x4_1024_x_768_x16_Glide_lev2.jpg

here the Windows settings screenshots to show you that everything looks in perfect order :)

Voodoo5 5000 AGP resolution settings:
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6939-2/Voodoo5_5000_AGP_resolution_settings.jpg

Voodoo5 5000 AGP information tab:
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6942-2/Voodoo5_5000_AGP_info.jpg

Voodoo5 5000 AGP FSAA settings tab:
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6945-2/Voodoo5_5000_AGP_FSAA_x4_setting.jpg

Unreal Tournament Game Of The Year Edition 1999 Ver 4.36
1024 x 768 x16 @ Glide + FSAA x4 :D BOOM HEADSHOT!!!
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/6948-2/BOOM_HEADSHOT.jpg

And I thank everyone for thier help on this project I thank you all very much!

Remember The Force Will Be With You Always!!

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 30.03.06 at 12:32:53
So how many Voodoo5 5000 people do we have actually that's including both AGP and PCI varriants ofcourse ;)

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by SirSlayer on 01.04.06 at 19:30:40
Obi, under win98 did you manage to get your voodoo5 in preformance sli mode ? if not, you did able to get it in 4x AA mode so maybe setting to a analog sli mode might help out.  A voodoo5 with sgram instead of sdram, is there any real preformance advantage and did any extra features from using sgram is utilized on the driver level? I thought their was faster fill modes and packed color for DVD asist under 2d mode but how about in 3d (direct3d or glide)? The Vsa-100 programing ref guide had some referance for sgram modes but it was disable in the bios......                   I wonder why???

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 02.04.06 at 01:18:19
SLi works perfectly otherwise FSAA x2, x4 ain't possible ;)

You need SLI to do  FSAA x2 and x4  8) and under 98 SE and the latest 3dfx WHQL driver it ain't a prob man :)

SGRAM does have some what better latencies though the difference ain't that different heh only when FSAA x4 is used the difference does start to make a difference ;)

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 10.11.06 at 14:56:13
For Gamma 742 :)

here the Voodoo5 5000 AGP with 5500 AGP and 6000 AGP shots, abit late but better late than never ;)

Top to Bottom:
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP 128MB Rev.A 3700
3dfx Voodoo5 5500 AGP   64MB Rev.A 2500
3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGP   32MB Rev.A0 3700

Top Sides as back sides:
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/7722-2/3dfx_Voodoo5_Trio_Top.jpg http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/7726-2/3dfx_Voodoo5_Trio_Bottom.jpg

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by gamma742 on 10.11.06 at 19:17:46
That 5000 has such a nice look to it 8)

Title: Re: 3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGPx4 32MB Rev.A0 3700 Obtai
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 10.11.06 at 19:20:14
yeah sure does nice and small too, don't understand why they didn't give the AGP x4 slot a go on the 6000 series though? just so you could fit it in AGP x4 mobos that supported 3.3volts as well  heh :)

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