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Message started by gdonovan on 15.07.07 at 14:43:58

Title: A treat for myself
Post by gdonovan on 15.07.07 at 14:43:58
A few of you know that I have been going through some difficulties here at home.. which are finally starting to get resolved...so as a treat to myself this weekend I have purchased a 37" HD Magnavox LCD TV.



Currently resting on top my grandmothers cedar chest, sorry for the dust!



The forum in all it's 720 x 400 glory.

Currently I'm tinkering with settings and such, this LCD might actually go back as I'm not all the pleased with the PC output. Currently the only way for me to get a signal in from a PC is through the S-video. I could have purchased a LCD with a VGA-15 built in but the picture on this unit was so superb I could not resist and have 90 days to try. I can always return the brute for a different model and just might go to the store with a laptop and test the displays.

Another option is to get a video card with DVI and get a DVI -> HDMI adapter and see if there is a big difference.

Watched part of Saving Private Ryan last night, man the picture quality was just amazing.

Gary

P.S. The rest of the "multimedia center" is a Phillips 5 channel DVD/tuner, Sony VCR, Sony Tuner, Technics CD player, Sony cassette. THe PC is a SFF Shuttle with an AMD 3400+ running Windows 2000 with a gig of ram.

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 15.07.07 at 15:08:23
Nice man very nice, What about Plasma2.0 wasn't that comming out this simester ?

I suppose Quake3Arena is cool on that thing heh I have one myself too a Phillips HDTV:

Only haven't played PC games on it yet, never thought about the idea really heh! I watch alot of cabaret's as movies on it, remember SpaceBalls with Mel Brooks & John Candy? lmao with that one haha, looks very cool on my Philips 32PF7411
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/d/23338-2/Voodoo+Table+_amp_+HDTV.JPG

32" HDTV LCD contrast 5000:1 max reso 1367 x 768 x 32 mine does max 720i.

anyways good enough for movies as watching my favourite sho The Flying Doctors haha good ole Aussie program I used to watch back in the mid 80's

btw I have a feeling you had a great day before buying that telly Gary? ;)

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by gdonovan on 15.07.07 at 15:10:08
The idea with the PC is that I can stream DVD movies off the hard drive and not worry about physical media.

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 15.07.07 at 15:16:32
It's good to hear that your status is resolving Gary, it has been along winding road but I'm happy for you and I'm proud to see you in a much happier state. 8)

Nice thing with that Shuttle, does it have a Raid5 setup? so if a HDD fails that you won't have to build the whole raidsetup as the entire installation ?

Windows 2000 Pro good choice ;)

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by paulpsomiadis on 15.07.07 at 17:32:46
@Gary - good to hear things are calming down. ;)

I'd personally go with LCD over Plasma. Regardless of type - plasma still suffers from burn-in... ::)

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by BFG3dfx on 15.07.07 at 19:20:59
very nice gary, good to hear your feeling better :)

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by gdonovan on 16.07.07 at 03:31:52

wrote on 15.07.07 at 17:32:46:
I'd personally go with LCD over Plasma. Regardless of type - plasma still suffers from burn-in... ::)


The picture of the plasma screens I looked at just don't "look" right to my eyes for some reason, I like the sharper LCD's.

Update- Hooked up a PC using the HDMI port with my 6600GT driving through the DVI output at 1280 x 720.

[glb]WOW[/glb]

SWEET! I need to get a low powered AGP board with DVI output for the shuttle box now... DVI/HDMI rocks hard.

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by gdonovan on 16.07.07 at 03:45:05
Any of these should work fine-

http://cgi.ebay.com/Dell-nVidia-GeForce4-64MB-8x-AGP-DVI-TV-Out-G0169_W0QQitemZ180139268007QQihZ008QQcategoryZ40158QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 16.07.07 at 04:15:25
the problem is that GeForce 7 series & 8 series are the only GeForce types that have true HDCP acceleration, which give the advatages of HDMI like ATi's X1K series & HD2.xx series do.

The Geforce cards below the 7 series don't have this feature thereby lowering the image quallity ;)

just get a low powered GeForce 7600GT with HDMI out and then you can benefit the full usage of your big telly as the HDCP extra's :)
http://xtreview.com/addcomment.php?id=549&view=asus-7600gt-hdmi-review
so the advantage here is that you will have a pure HDMI to HDMI connection for your GeForce 7600GT HDMI card to your big screen TFT :)


Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by gdonovan on 16.07.07 at 04:27:56

wrote on 16.07.07 at 04:15:25:
the problem is that GeForce 7 series & 8 series are the only GeForce types that have true HDCP acceleration, which give the advatages of HDMI like ATi's X1K series & HD2.xx series do.


Don't care, it's just for playing ripped movies off the harddrive and I don't want to blow up the 250 watt power supply.

The GF2MX that is in the now works great, just doesn't have DVI out.

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 16.07.07 at 04:30:06
mkay heh well hmm maybe a fun idea, how about using a Voodoo4 4500 PCI macintosh instead :) that has DVI-D which might be the key as well :)

if it will work that is heh :) a 3dfx powered movie box would be my taste ;)

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by gdonovan on 16.07.07 at 11:59:15

wrote on 16.07.07 at 04:30:06:
mkay heh well hmm maybe a fun idea, how about using a Voodoo4 4500 PCI macintosh instead :) that has DVI-D which might be the key as well :)

if it will work that is heh :) a 3dfx powered movie box would be my taste ;)


Only have an AGP slot available for use.

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by gdonovan on 16.07.07 at 15:46:53
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200127396333

Less than $10 shipped! Woo!

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by exxe on 16.07.07 at 16:07:11
a GeForce3 use the same A D chip like a Voodoo5 or daytona =poor image quality

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by gdonovan on 16.07.07 at 16:52:27

wrote on 16.07.07 at 16:07:11:
a GeForce3 use the same A D chip like a Voodoo5 or daytona =poor image quality


Find out soon enough, has to be better than the S-video output at any rate.

For $10 how can you go wrong? Can always throw it back on Ebay.

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 16.07.07 at 20:19:49

wrote on 16.07.07 at 16:07:11:
a GeForce3 use the same A D chip like a Voodoo5 or daytona =poor image quality

well the Voodoo5 hasd actually exellent 2D image Quallity compared to the GeForce /Radeon series ;) Thanx to perfect2D filters like thatof the avenger series.

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by osckhar on 17.07.07 at 17:30:25
@Gary,
Nice to see you here again my friend.  :)

Oscar

Title: Re: A treat for myself
Post by gdonovan on 21.07.07 at 15:18:33

wrote on 16.07.07 at 16:07:11:
a GeForce3 use the same A D chip like a Voodoo5 or daytona =poor image quality


Heh, too "clever" by half I am.

The card is here and works perfect.... with everything but the HDTV! I assumed that since the DVI port was doing the driving what was attached made no difference. Wrong!

The bios of the card as far as I can tell has to support an HD display. The drivers indicate the HDTV is there but when you try to activate the display you get a nice fat black screen.... and I'm not in the mood for bios hacking right now.

Works perfect with my desktop widescreen Viewsonic LCD with DVI though... so for the moment I'll leave the 6600GT in the movie box.

Poking around the NV forums it looks like (I'm not 100% positive) that the minimum supported card is a 5200.  Common boards used for home media centers are the 6200 and the 6200LE. I have not found anyone yet running a HDTV with a GF4 series or less.

UPDATE- Answer found on Nvidia website FAQ!  

"CEA/EIA-861B(HDTV) Timings are supported by GeForce FX, Quadro FX, and GeForce 6 series based cards with internal TMDS (Transition-Minimized Differential Signaling) via DVI out."

Heh, and it only cost me $10 ;-)

Update- Think I'll just pop for a 6200 and be done with it, the 6600GT pulls 40 watts at max 2D rendering and I don't wish to stress the power supply any more than required  :P

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