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Re: Going retro gaming with 3DFX
Reply #45 - 15.07.13 at 16:44:16
 
do those have dvi support for the 5500 for pc?
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Reply #46 - 16.07.13 at 10:30:07
 
Never mind, I installed it and works like a charm.

In 3dfx tools I can enable digital display, which works like a charm as well.

Played FF7, carmageddon 1+2 and UT99 and then called it a night, only strange thing was, that with FF7, the movies were flipped upside down, but that was with install from original discs and win2k patch.

I removed it and installed Ultima edition and that works just fine.
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« Last Edit: 16.07.13 at 21:49:55 by ultima »  

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4 x 1GB PC3200
3DFX Voodoo5 5500MAC PCI
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Reply #47 - 24.07.13 at 22:52:59
 
Seems like I've been doing something wrong, ff7 is hanging up on me in win2k, even the Ultima edition.

When starting from scratch with win2k with sp4,  what drivers are best to use with voodoo5 5500 mac edition??

Amigamerlin or official 3dfx and which of the 2 with what dx version??

Btw, finally getting the 2nd xp-m 3000+ today, so will have those running dual if all goes well
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« Last Edit: 25.07.13 at 07:24:05 by ultima »  

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Aerocool Strike-X Air
SuperMicro H8DAE
Dual Opteron 280 @ 2.4Ghz (4 cores)
4 x 1GB PC3200
3DFX Voodoo5 5500MAC PCI
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Reply #48 - 25.07.13 at 21:25:51
 
and here's apicture of my 2 beauties before modding them:

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Dual Opteron 280 @ 2.4Ghz (4 cores)
4 x 1GB PC3200
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Reply #49 - 27.07.13 at 13:49:51
 
I flashed the bios with the latest one that Narmounet posted about, running just fine, have to set the multiplier tho Smiley, srunning 800Mhz now

And gonne test the cpu's speeds first, will be doing the pin mod and if they both can run 2600Mhz, that's better then 2200 ofcourse.

Will be testing on an nforce2 board, so no limits there in regards to fsb or multiplier
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« Last Edit: 27.07.13 at 21:14:23 by ultima »  

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4 x 1GB PC3200
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Reply #50 - 29.07.13 at 13:12:26
 
both cpu's ran just fine @ 2500Mhz with 1.7V vcore, so I'll be doing the pintrick on that.

will be doing with wires 1st to see if they'll run, if so, I'll make it permanent.
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4 x 1GB PC3200
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Reply #51 - 20.08.13 at 10:55:06
 
my god this is so friggin annoying Sad

I used the wires from a fan controller cable, those tiny things that are like hairs, putting little U's in the sockets is undoable, they jump out as soon as I put em in.
For wiring on the pins themselves they are ideal, bendy enough, if it weren't for the fact that as soon as I try to get it around 2 pins more then once, it jumps off again Sad

Anyone have a suggestion about how this can be done relatively easy?

Only upside so far is that both XP-M's are recognised by the A7M266-D as XP's being MP capable Smiley they run 800Mhz right now, so I really need to get the pinmod done, as I do not have options for setting multipliers, in bios or with switches.
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Dual Opteron 280 @ 2.4Ghz (4 cores)
4 x 1GB PC3200
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Re: Going retro gaming with 3DFX
Reply #52 - 20.08.13 at 11:13:59
 
ultima wrote on 20.08.13 at 10:55:06:
my god this is so friggin annoying Sad

I used the wires from a fan controller cable, those tiny things that are like hairs, putting little U's in the sockets is undoable, they jump out as soon as I put em in.
For wiring on the pins themselves they are ideal, bendy enough, if it weren't for the fact that as soon as I try to get it around 2 pins more then once, it jumps off again Sad

Anyone have a suggestion about how this can be done relatively easy?

Only upside so far is that both XP-M's are recognised by the A7M266-D as XP's being MP capable Smiley they run 800Mhz right now, so I really need to get the pinmod done, as I do not have options for setting multipliers, in bios or with switches.


You should try the more delicate option of modifying the bridges on the top of the CPU. To know which ones you need see the link bellow which explains them in detail with pictures:
http://fab51.com/cpu/barton/athlon-e23.html

And how to make an MP cpu out of you XP-M see here some
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/view.php?id=393&pg=3

I tried this some time ago and one CPU worked fine as an MP with fixed multi while the other still had the variable multi of a XP-M so only worked at lower limit of 800Mhz.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Going retro gaming with 3DFX
Reply #53 - 20.08.13 at 13:29:26
 
thanks for the links, I will have a look at it at home, but they already are MP capable, so no need to change there, just need to fix the multiplier.
Gonna set it to 2.4Ghz, so multiplier of 17.5x or something, will try and do that with pinmod.

will leave that running for a longer period of time and if all is still well after lets say 2 months, I will make a permanent mod.
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« Last Edit: 20.08.13 at 13:30:33 by ultima »  

3DFX Playrig:

Aerocool Strike-X Air
SuperMicro H8DAE
Dual Opteron 280 @ 2.4Ghz (4 cores)
4 x 1GB PC3200
3DFX Voodoo5 5500MAC PCI
WD 160GB ATA100/133
Diamond MonsterSound MX300
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Reply #54 - 21.08.13 at 10:10:11
 
I decided I will try and see what the highest stable fsb is I can get the board running on.

Since voodoo5 cards love a higher fsb, I will try and see what I can get out of it.

Doing it while still running on default multiplier, absolute speed won't be the problem, I also have 1 stick of 512MB DDR550 in there now, so that won't limit it either.

I'm thinking about changing the heatsink on the chipset for an actively cooled one, or just add a fan to it.

will keep you posted.
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Dual Opteron 280 @ 2.4Ghz (4 cores)
4 x 1GB PC3200
3DFX Voodoo5 5500MAC PCI
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Re: Going retro gaming with 3DFX
Reply #55 - 22.08.13 at 08:17:46
 
I got a stable fsb of 145Mhz yesterday, did some testing runs for about an hour or 2, gaming, benching etc etc, flaswless operation.
I won't show you the benchmark results, as they are pityful due to low speed.
Even the ram test will be crappy, cause let's face it, if I reach 150Mhz stable, it srtill is only DDR300 speed, so...

but the upside is, I've been looking around, a stable fsb above 150 should be doable, I will replace the NB heatsink with a decent actively cooled one and use some artic silver for it.
Won't keep the DDR550 in there, I have 2 x 1GB Corsair XMS PC3200 2-2-2-5 1T lying around for the system, no need for ECC reg ram Smiley

But when I have reached my final FSB speed, I will set the multiplier accordingly and then do the tests again and those results I will post. Smiley
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4 x 1GB PC3200
3DFX Voodoo5 5500MAC PCI
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Diamond MonsterSound MX300
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Re: Going retro gaming with 3DFX
Reply #56 - 02.09.13 at 21:29:33
 
Just to see how much impact a higher fsb will have, I'm doing testing:

It is a Windows98SE installation without the unofficial SP, 3dfx driver set that came with the card and directx7a. so no MP support Smiley

XP-M @ 800Mhz
512MB DDR333
40GB ATA100
Voodoo5PCI

800Mhz 133Mhz fsb

3DMARK99MAX @ default settings = 6811 3DMarks / 16762 CPU Marks
3DMARK2000 @ Default settings = 4731 3DMarks

900Mhz 150Mhz fsb

3DMARK99MAX @ default settings = 7094 3DMarks / 18696 CPU Marks (almost 300points increase for the voodoo card from 100Mhz cpu speed, and 2000 for cpu marks)
3DMARK2000 @ Default settings =  5117 3DMarks (almost 400 points more)


more benches to follow
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« Last Edit: 03.09.13 at 19:47:15 by ultima »  

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SuperMicro H8DAE
Dual Opteron 280 @ 2.4Ghz (4 cores)
4 x 1GB PC3200
3DFX Voodoo5 5500MAC PCI
WD 160GB ATA100/133
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Re: Going retro gaming with 3DFX
Reply #57 - 04.10.13 at 11:39:39
 
Sweet......I just received an HP 2025 20" flatscreen with dvi support, which I will hook up to my 3DFX rig. max resolution is 1600 x 1200, so pretty good for a 20"screen.

A lot better then my old 17" craptastic screen Smiley

This way I can test if for example UT99 is playable on 1600x1200 @ 32bit color, when it has a 2.4Ghz Barton core backing it up, along with enough ram.

Anyone wanna venture a guess at what the framerate will be?
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SuperMicro H8DAE
Dual Opteron 280 @ 2.4Ghz (4 cores)
4 x 1GB PC3200
3DFX Voodoo5 5500MAC PCI
WD 160GB ATA100/133
Diamond MonsterSound MX300
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Re: Going retro gaming with 3DFX
Reply #58 - 20.10.13 at 01:05:11
 
For some reason, when the 5500 is connected through dvi to the monitor and I change it to anything, it will display a message saying I need to set to 1600×1200@60Hz.

I have tried everything, is this a known issue for mac cards flashed to pc??

Anyone have any suggestions??
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Dual Opteron 280 @ 2.4Ghz (4 cores)
4 x 1GB PC3200
3DFX Voodoo5 5500MAC PCI
WD 160GB ATA100/133
Diamond MonsterSound MX300
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Re: Going retro gaming with 3DFX
Reply #59 - 27.10.13 at 20:00:20
 
hey guys,

I finally got to modding one the XP-M cpus, here's a pin lay-out and what pins I needed to connect. Smiley

...

and here's a picture of the actual mod:

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the wires look to be very close to eachother, but I have corrected that problem.

tomorrow night I will be putting this cpu in the board to see if it runs. Smiley if it runs just fine, I'll be doing the other one tomorrow as well, I have perfect tools for it now Smiley
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3DFX Playrig:

Aerocool Strike-X Air
SuperMicro H8DAE
Dual Opteron 280 @ 2.4Ghz (4 cores)
4 x 1GB PC3200
3DFX Voodoo5 5500MAC PCI
WD 160GB ATA100/133
Diamond MonsterSound MX300
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