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Reply #15 - 24.03.03 at 22:10:11
 
thanks falconfly. I have already seen that comparison, it compares radeon 9700 and 9800 but I want to see 9600 and 9500 because I donīt know what is faster. 9500 has 8 pipeline and 9600 4 pipeline but faster clock and memory. so that I want to see that comparison. I want to buy 9500 pro but I donīt find it here in Spain. If 9600 is better Iīll wait a bit and Iīll buy it. What do you recommend?
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Reply #16 - 27.03.03 at 21:30:35
 
BTW how does Nvidia's Personal Cinema stack up against the ATI All In Wonder? Are there any pages that compare the two?
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Reply #17 - 28.03.03 at 18:41:21
 
Hm, in that Case I can only recommend the 'good old oracle' : Google Wink

Reviews of all the new Models are popping up everywhere, so they should be easy to find.
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Reply #18 - 24.04.03 at 23:48:07
 
One more question: Are there any radeon 9500 non-pro with 128Mb?
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Reply #19 - 25.04.03 at 00:00:46
 
yeah, but an ati 9500 non-pro of 128Mb built by the oficial ati?
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Reply #20 - 25.04.03 at 00:23:22
 
I think it is not important anymore, whether is is BBA (Built by ATI) or PBA (Powered by ATI).

Ever since the Catalyst Driver was introduced, there is no difference between those Driver-wise.

And for as long as the basic Numbers (GPU/Mem Clock) are okay, and the manufacturer isn't known for poor Quality, it is okay to buy whatever brand you prefer...

My Radeon 9700pro is made by HIS, and works just as fine as any other (even more expensive) brands, and the same is true for my Powercolor Radeon 7500 Ultra Wink
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Reply #21 - 25.04.03 at 00:39:38
 
the problem is that, in a shop, I have asked about the radeon 9500 pro but he has given me the properties of an ati radeon 9500 128Mb DDR DVI, and, if there arenīt any radeon 9500 with 128 Mb Iīll buy but Iīm not sure if itīs a radeon 9500 or 9500 pro ???
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Reply #22 - 25.04.03 at 00:40:44
 
and I need a new power supply?
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Reply #23 - 25.04.03 at 00:41:19
 
Hm ?

Well, the seller (or the Retail Package) has to clearly show, whether it is a R9500 or R9500pro...

Makes for a difference in price and performance, so they should be able to tell you...

Unless you think your current Power Supply is running already on the edge, it should work...
For any modern System, a solid 300W should do very well, and leave even some Wattage to spare Wink
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Reply #24 - 26.04.03 at 01:13:32
 
I sent an e-mail to the shop:
I wrote this:
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Hello, I would like to know if you have the graphic card ati radeon 9500 pro of 128Mb and how much would it cost

They answered me this:
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Hello,
Thanks for consulting us:
graphic card VGA ATI RADEON 9500 128MB DDR TV OUT+DVI            211.31 €/u

Well I have sent another message asking about if itīs a 9500 or 9500 pro because  the 9500 pro is more powerful.
They havenīt answered yet.
What do you think? Undecided
in www.hwc.es is where I have found that shop and there are an ati radeon 9500pro but in the title it shows 9500 of 128Mb, I think that itīs the same product.
It would be a 9500 pro or a 9500 non-pro?
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Reply #25 - 26.04.03 at 14:30:34
 
yeah, but I canīt see the box unless I buy it and they send it to me Sad
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Reply #26 - 26.04.03 at 16:09:00
 
I'd recommend :

If these people can't get their act together, and tell you exactly what model of a Card this is : Don't Buy there !

A good and reliable shop should even be able to answer much more detailed questions like manufacturer of the VRAM and exact memory type (e.g. 4.0ns, 3.6ns etc) for example.

If they can't even tell if it's a R9500 or R9500pro, they're not the place to buy...  Roll Eyes
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Reply #27 - 26.04.03 at 18:20:02
 
ok, if they donīt ansewer me this tuesday, Iīll forget to buy the card there.
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Reply #28 - 28.04.03 at 15:08:10
 
hello, I have come again, they have answered me this:
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Answering to your hesitation, I say you that the cards radeon 9500 and 9500pro are the same, if you want to see the properties, you can see it in the ati webpage: www.ati.com and youīll see the comparative.

well, now I am thinking the radeon 9500 and 9500 pro arenīt the same Angry, but I went to the ati website and they only show the radeon 9500 pro, please look that website and tell me your opinion Undecided
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Reply #29 - 28.04.03 at 17:11:14
 
lol

Well, they are not the same...
(Definitely forget that shop, this is ridiculous !)

...

The Radeon 9500 only has 4 Pipelines, while the 9500pro has 8...
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