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Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700
Reply #285 - 16.12.13 at 12:25:03

Loeschzwerg wrote on 16.12.13 at 12:18:57:

Try using some thermal grease between GPU and socket clamp. Don't use to much of it, the thermal grease must not flow under the GPU!

I have never put thermal grease btw chip and top of the cooler. So the chip is never cooled by the aluminium heatsink. One day Oscar said me it's not necessary to put thermal grease.

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Loeschzwerg Senior Member Offline AAlchemy PSU maker :-) Posts: 396 Germany -> Bavaria -> Augsburg Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #286 - 16.12.13 at 12:30:12 Well it shouldn't be necessary since the GPU is clocked very very low. But it could help to get a few °C so ist works more stable, at least under that high ambient temperature you have at home. Just an idea
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Reply #287 - 16.12.13 at 12:34:15

Loeschzwerg wrote on 16.12.13 at 12:30:12:

Well it shouldn't be necessary since the GPU is clocked very very low. But it could help to get a few °C so ist works more stable, at least under that high ambient temperature you have at home.

Just an idea Wink

Ok thanks for these nice informations. and when i have some problem like that:

http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/845625DSC07643.jpg

It means what?

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osckhar God Member Offline www.3Dfx.es Posts: 812 SPAIN Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #288 - 16.12.13 at 12:42:55 It means not good contact between rampage chip and test socket.
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trevormacro God Member Offline Voodoo5k6 Gold SE, Legend & Mystical Edition Posts: 622 Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #289 - 16.12.13 at 14:34:33 Some videos: 3dfx Rampage #B001 (Quake 3 TitaniumGL): http://youtu.be/HuGiGHx2TS0 http://youtu.be/FdS_Qc8R6Fw 3dmark01se: http://youtu.be/bfSZMJzyNpA Half-Life: http://youtu.be/qnh16Ik2CAw Unreal Tournament: http://youtu.be/yl4OlvIjQsY
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Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700
Reply #290 - 16.12.13 at 16:05:10

I have installed GLDirect and it's much better than TitaniumGL.
Quake 3 run very well.

I have a new conclusion:

when you play the games in software mode the rampage never crash.
when you play the games in OpenGL mode the rampage often crash because it use more the chip so more heat than the software mode.

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Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700
Reply #291 - 16.12.13 at 17:11:50

trevormacro wrote on 16.12.13 at 16:05:10:

when you play the games in software mode the rampage never crash.

No surprise there, it has Banshee/Voodoo 3 2D core.

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when you play the games in OpenGL mode the rampage often crash because it use more the chip so more heat than the software mode.

Yes and no.

Rampage crashes for a number of reasons- The D3D driver for one and the nature of the chip for another. It crashes just fine in D3D, these same crashes are happening with the wrapper since the wrapper is using the D3D driver.

As I pointed out before, the chip had several "hacks" done to it in the attempt to get it functioning. It uses no AGP functions (they were disabled) and I was told by Hank it does not access the ram on the board proper so they could focus on different functions of the core while debugging. This MAY be why the ram is not reported correctly by several programs.

The best we can hope for is a revised D3D driver that is more stable. A new BIOS is possible but I'll let someone else flash their card first!

Hank indicated some hacks were chip level, these can never be undone.

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EMPEROR Junior Member Offline 3dfx enthusiast Posts: 67 Germany Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #292 - 16.12.13 at 17:32:47 I am curious if someone can try to run GPU-Z, just to see if there will be any info shown. It's a free little tool, that can be downloaded from here: http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/ I am not sure if it will work on 98, but it's worth a try...
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paulpsomiadis God Member Offline -=3Dfx still rox!=- Posts: 2011 Newcastle U.K. Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #293 - 16.12.13 at 18:59:31 GPU-Z will probably have a brain-fart as it's a GPU that was never officially released...
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #294 - 16.12.13 at 19:18:26 paulpsomiadis wrote on 16.12.13 at 18:59:31: GPU-Z will probably have a brain-fart as it's a GPU that was never officially released... I think I have tried, crashes. I'll test again.
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #295 - 16.12.13 at 19:43:47 paulpsomiadis wrote on 16.12.13 at 18:59:31: GPU-Z will probably have a brain-fart as it's a GPU that was never officially released... Went all the way back to version 0.0.7, no WIN98 support
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #296 - 16.12.13 at 19:53:58 Sorry, best you are going to get. Ran several versions of CPU-Z and this was the most info available about AGP device.
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Reply #297 - 17.12.13 at 10:03:10

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The best we can hope for is a revised D3D driver that is more stable. A new BIOS is possible but I'll let someone else flash their card first!

Not possible to flash the card directly using a 3Dfx flash tool. Card has a bug what not allowed flash the bios and stop the process. For such reason in A1 revision board engineers added a bios socket for update the bios across an external flash program utitlity based PLCC format.

I have one here and it works.

- Oscar.

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Loeschzwerg Senior Member Offline AAlchemy PSU maker :-) Posts: 396 Germany -> Bavaria -> Augsburg Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #298 - 17.12.13 at 12:26:38 Small sidenote regarding Atmel AT49BV512: Get an Intel Pro/100+ network card with a bios socket. Put in the PLCC you want to write and flash the rom using fboot.exe from intel proutil.exe package. The cheapest flash writer I know
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trevormacro God Member Offline Voodoo5k6 Gold SE, Legend & Mystical Edition Posts: 622 Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #299 - 17.12.13 at 12:31:53 About the dongle Rev A2: A little blured screen in low resolution: Take a look: http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/185112DSC07738.jpg
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