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19.10.02 at 15:56:47
 
Help Please. I have a Voodoo 3 2000 AGP, when I plug it to my KT3 Ultra2 mainboard, the onboard speaker will beep 4 times.

Usually when this sounds beeps mean then there's a probleam with the display (not insert properly or damage) and won't boot up. But in my case, my system will boot and continue running like normal after the 4 beeps sound. The sound really annoying me since it will beep everytime I start or restart the PC  Angry .

When the mobo fresh taken out from the box with
default BIOS setting, there's no probleam. But it show my Athlon 1700 XP to a 1100 CPU. Since then i have change the FSB to 133 and reboot, then this probleam occurs. ???

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AMD Athlon 1700+ XP
KT3 Ultra2 (MS-6380E)
256MB DDR PC2100 Kingston
40GB Maxtor
Voodoo 3 2000 16MB AGP
Win98 SE
350W PSU
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Re: Voodoo 3 on KT3 Ultra2
Reply #1 - 19.10.02 at 20:30:04
 
I just leave it "AUTO".  Undecided

I heard someone says this board do not support AGP 3.3v and since that voodoo run at 3.3v AGP. But this mainboard support 1,2,4x...

Is't about the 133 FSB?  Hmm...
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Reply #2 - 19.10.02 at 20:59:17
 
Yeah you are true...the only probleam is the beep.

I try to run EA Fifa Worldcup without playing but just leave it on the demo for 24hrs and run smoothly without error.

But the beep is really annoying. This really make me sick.
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Reply #3 - 19.10.02 at 21:15:39
 
OK...Let me explain from the beginning.

1---First I take out the mobo from the box.
2---I plug everything in.(Processor, RAM, etc)
3--Turn on the computer. Everything looks fine, except my Athlon 1700+ XP to beshown as 1100.
4---Go to Bios and set the FSB to 133. & Reboot
5---The 4 beeps sound occur, then the system run like normal.

This 4 beep sound normally tell you that you got probleam with the VGA  and won't boot up.

but mine will continue running like normal. ???
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Reply #4 - 19.10.02 at 21:47:12
 
I just change the FSB to 133 only. That's it, no other cinfiguration etc...

Firstly I turn on the PC, it act like normal & without the 4 beeps sound. The beeps sound occur after I change the BIOS setting (100~133 FSB) and reboot.

When I try to change it back to 100 FSB, it still have th eep sound.  Embarrassed

I have 10 sets of these system. WHAT TO DO!!!

I try to ask the technician from the place I bought, and he says supporse to be working fine, but he says this is the first time he heard such a probleam like this.

..sorry for my english,
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Reply #5 - 20.10.02 at 00:55:12
 
Hmm...

Difficult Problem.

Strangely, I've read in numberous places already, that there are some increasing Problems with getting older GFX Cards to run on 133MHz FSB...

Yet, the Problems appear rather random, some Users report even very old cards to run flawless, while some cannot get Cards like Voodoo2 or Matrox G400 to initialize on high FSB...

In general, I'd really make sure the Motherboard does support 3.3V AGP. If it does not, running the Voodoo3 in that Motherboard will significantly overstress its Voltage Regulators, and ultimately can destroy the Motherboard (!)

(Quite a number of 1.5V AGP only Motherboards got killed by their Users that way already Roll Eyes )

If it does support 3.3V AGP, I'd set everything in the Bios to max. compatibility, and then try 133MHz FSB.

It might also have to do with Latency timings (if available, play with 32, 64, or even slightly higher values), but that's a far shot...
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Reply #6 - 20.10.02 at 10:05:16
 
I think this mobo (KT3 Ultra2 (MS-6380E) does not support AGP 3.3v Undecided

When I go through the BIOS setting,

---Frequency/Voltage Control section,
---AGP Voltage (V)

& I found out that available voltage setting  are 1.6/1.7/1.8 & AUTO. 

The AUTO means it support 3.3v AGP? ???


If not I in trouble now Embarrassed. I have 3 sets of Voodoo 3 3000 & 22 sets of Voodoo 3 2000 AGP card. What I supposed to do with it? Besides I have to thrown huge of cash to get a new AGP card on 25 system. Grrrrr.... Sad

I'll try to check the D-Bracket & Is't if I ?
Because I try to run EA Fifa Worldcup for 24 hrs and it seems no problem at all. But I just worry if continue running this will destroy the mainboard.

Thanks alot guys. It's alot of help. I try a few forum but the response is poor. (Voodoofiles & MSI forum). This is the best place. Wink

& I'll keep trying maybe upgrade BIOS or something. (The MSI support is so poor, I wrote an email to them almost a weeks & no response).
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Reply #7 - 20.10.02 at 12:59:03
 
There are 2 version of BIOS...Which should I use?

BIOS Type  AwardŽ BIOS  File Size  235KB 
Version  3.0  Update date  2002-6-20 
Update Description  This is Award BIOS release 

BIOS Type  AwardŽ BIOS  File Size  238KB 
Version  3.1  Update date  2002-9-16 
Update Description  support AMD XP2400+ & XP2600+ CPU 

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Reply #8 - 20.10.02 at 13:35:38
 
There's two more

BIOS Type  AMIŽ BIOS  File Size  521KB 
Version  5.6  Update date  2002-9-10 
Update Description -Fixed WinXP EventViewer ACPI error
-Support XP2400+ & XP2600+ CPU 
Special note  This BIOS is intended for MS-6380E PCB with KT266A & KT333 chipset. K7T266 Pro2-A & K7T266 Pro2-RU dont use the same BIOS, 
Download  6380ev56.exe 


BIOS Type  AMIŽ BIOS  File Size  521KB 
Version  5.5  Update date  2002-7-9 
Update Description Fixed Compatibility issue with Adaptec 29160 SCSI card

Special note  This BIOS is intended for MS-6380E PCB with KT266A & KT333 chipset. K7T266 Pro2 & K7T266 Pro2-RU don't use the same BIOS, 
Download  6380ev55.exe 


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Reply #9 - 21.10.02 at 10:08:09
 
Well, in this case you're risking the Board to go up in flames (almost literally, as the Voltage Regulators might blow, or 'burn out' ).

If the Bios offers 1.5,1.6,1.7V, these are indeed only meant to give a slight boost to 1.5V AGP cards (OverClockers love those options).
Auto should use default 1.5V.

There is a really remote chance, that Auto might indeed give you 3.3V (yet unlikely). The only way to confirm that would be the Hardware Monitoring of either the Bios, or Monitoring Software. But if those don't display the AGP Voltage, assume worst case, only 1.5V supported.

The Bios release should always be the latest one you can find, if you decide to flash. There's is no need to 'step-by-step' flash them, just do it once with the latest one.

It seems your Board comes in different Revisions and Releases.
You must flash the Version matching your current Bios Software (either AMI or AWARD). It should tell you at Power-On, and in the Bios itself.

The Flash Programs are usually smart enough to see if there's a mismatch, but I wouldn't rely on that.

Note also, that a Bios Update normally cannot give you 3.3V AGP if that wasn't in there in the first place. This is a Hardware limitation, and the AGP slot probably has gaps/bumps (on 1.5V and 3.3V Signaling Pins) that should physically prevent a 3.3V only AGP Card to be installed onto a 1.5V only Slot and vice versa.

Unfortunately, many of the old 3.3V Cards fit anyway into these 1.5V Slots, due to such matters being simply disregarded in the old days Sad
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From the current look at things, it seems that you're really hosed Roll Eyes

You either look into PCI cards (in case it MUST be a Voodoo), or choose other 1.5V AGP cards...

Your 25 Voodoo3's probably have to end up at Ebay in order to minimize the losses I guess Roll Eyes

Since I don't know what purpose those Voodoo3's were meant to have, you'll have to see for yourself, what other PCI/AGP cards might suit your needs...
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Reply #10 - 21.10.02 at 13:20:21
 
What kind of Hardware Monitoring of either the Bios, or Monitoring Software? to check the AGP?

How much should sell the Voodoo 3? 2000/3000

The AGP slot doesn't have any gaps or bumb. Just single straight line slot, with  lock at the end.
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Reply #11 - 21.10.02 at 16:58:51
 
This should be present in the "Hardware Monitoring" of your Motherboard's BIOS.

It might be listed under a different name, but it's still easy to find.

Monitoring Software is usually delivered with your Motherboard's CD. Otherwise Freeware tools like MBprobe or MBM 5 (Motherboard Monitor) will do the job.

But anyway, if you cannot boot with the Voodoo3 installed, both ways are useless, since none of them can be accessed....

What price you can sell your Voodoo3's will largely depend on the present demand, and your location...
Ebay will certainly be the best place to sell.

I'd suggest selling one Card there initially, and see what you still get for it. After that, you'll have to decide if that's good enough for you to sell the rest...
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Pretty bad, that there are no locks preventing a 3.3V Card to be plugged in Roll Eyes
But I guess most current Manufacturers just don't think someone would use some of the older 3.3V Cards in modern Motherboards...

PS.
Where from did you get so many Voodoo3's, and at what price ? (you said it was expensive, so I'm curious).

The current prices on ebay vary about from 10$ to 20$ for AGP Voodoo3's, but that as well depends on where you're at (e.g. French, German, US Ebay, which do differ alot in prices sometimes).
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Reply #12 - 21.10.02 at 19:59:21
 
"But anyway, if you cannot boot with the Voodoo3 installed, both ways are useless, since none of them can be accessed.... "

My Voodoo 3 can boot on the MSI KT3 Ultra2 Mobo. But It always beep 4 times before the system act like normal.

I try to run Counterstrike and Stronghold crusader & nothing happen &  just like normal
All this Voodoo's are from my shop, which I running a Cyber Cafe. Before I upgrade, my shop is using the old Athlon 1Ghz with MSI K7T Turbo2 Mobo which based on KT133 northbridge. Actually I from Asia which I don't see Ebay here.

I bought the Voodoo card long time ago which they provided a free DVD software where you need to send them back the licence provided.
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Reply #13 - 21.10.02 at 20:30:10
 
Yeah...that's what I am wondering what's the probleam.

I just finish assemble the second system with the same spec.

AMD Athlon 1700+XP
MSI KT3 Ultra2
PC2100 256MB Kingston
Voodoo 3 2000
etc...

and the same problem consist. 4 beep sound before the computer run like normal. Grrrrrrrrr...... Sad no idea at all.
Now I just put this 2 system on 1 week testing period of time. If there's an error or damage on the mobo, then I can warranty it with my dealler.

But the 4 beep sound really not a normal sound on a system. Beside's really annoying each time Turn on the PC & restart the PC grrrrr...whatever. Can somebody help me please...... Embarrassed
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Re: Voodoo 3 on KT3 Ultra2
Reply #14 - 21.10.02 at 20:46:52
 
I didn't set anything except the FSB from 100 to 133.

I not sure this mobo support 3.3v but when i went through the BIOS setting, 

---Frequency/Voltage Control section,
---AGP Voltage (V)

& I found out that available voltage setting  are 1.6/1.7/1.8 & AUTO. 

& this mobo support 1x/2x/4x...
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