Okay everyone here are real pics of ATI's R600 GPU




Yes my friends this is the killer Chip which is gonna devistate a G80 with ease 8)

the ATi R600 has 2200 pins compared to the 1500 of the G8, this explain's it's 1024 Bit Ringbus memory controller and 512Bit GDDR4 memory interface.

Because that the core is laying diagonal might be the reason to make the PCB of the whole desihn shorter than 30cm

I got this from the dutch ATi topic.
http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1176262/2

And the dutch got it from Beyond3D:
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34676&page=29

Scroll three quaters down where user "Topman" writes the following:
"New photos.."

speculated to be 534 Mil if you read the topic of beyond 3D, and it would make sense too since it has 2204 balls to be precise since it's a ball grid array base.


The R580/R580+ which have the latest GPU layout from ATi at the moment they have 384 Mil Transistors which are used on the X1950 XT and XTX/ XTX CF cards.

So for the amount of transistors of the R600 see it this way:

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that should make sense about the number of transistors for R600, which can be read on this page allmost at the bottom of the page
http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34676&page=29

Please these are not true based facts yet, but if you follow thier calculations is should make sense.

I'm curious about what improvements they implemented compared to the Radeon 5xx Series chip...

Since the chip means tapeout complete, should be only a few months (if that Chip stepping shown actually works)

So are we  about six months out from seeing this released in the retail market?

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I don't think so. Nvidia bought 3dfx as a rival company, only to eliminate the biggest rival to that time. 3dfx did not have the fastest accelarator, but it still had a fair share of market and a few milions of fans worldwide. AMD bought ATI to strenghten it's position over Intel. I really dont think that AMD cares about graphics, it went for ATI because of the new chipsets. I assume that everything will be the same as it were in graphics, only the name has been changed (it may also be forgotten), but the support is going on...

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As I was saying... ATI's history as a brand, there is nothing to thank the force for.  There's capitalism to thank to and worldwide monopoly. There is AMD graphics now, with ATI engineers working hard on it. Basicly, ATI cards, but AMD's the name

Be as it may, I dislike Nvidia not only for destroying 3dfx, but also for disabling the highest image quality settings in drivers.
There was once a upon a time, a Nvidia card (TNT2 chipset) that had nice little detonator drivers, in which there was an option of mean anisotropic filtering. That card with that drivers could be set to have really nice and sharp 3D image quality that could even be comparable to LOD -1 (-2 is unreachable) on voodoo's. With the comming of Geforce series, it all went down - still there is no way to set the quality to the satisfying level. edit: except maybe for GF8800

ATI cards, on the other hand, allow that.

And Obi, do you really belive that Voodoo 5 6000 was faster then GF 3 ti500? Don't forget that GF3 ti500 was faster then Radeon 8500 (9000/9100/9200/9250)... And the lack of pixel shaders on Voodoo was not nice at all. If you think of Rampage - then it's something to speculate about and not claim... 

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Not true- In DirectX the V5-6000 gets it's butt kicked by the GF2 Ultra. Glide native games it would excel but the writing was already on the wall and programmers were already moving away from glide.

The V5-6000 was late to market by a year, it allowed NV to catch up. If it was released in early 2001 it would have gone up against the early GF3 cards and lost. If it came out in early 2000 like it should have it would have kicked butt for a year.

Pure and simple- 3dfx managment screwed up and that is the number one cause of 3dfx going under.

@ gdonovan:

The V6K beats the GF2U in some places, in some places it even nears a GeForce 3 if it's OpenGL, Glide or D3D, I read that on your benchmark page Gary, but in some places it's the otherway around. http://www.thedodgegarage.com/3dfx/bench_v6k.htm
Suppose it rocked mostly in Glide as OpenGL

Anyways it depends on what you run ofcourse, with FSAA the Voodoo5 cards were the best qua image quallity, it was FSAA done right, the image quallity was the best people have seen so far as what i have read in many other reviews of the Goddess.

But yeah you are right in many cases there

@ Elfuego:

Sorry mate but if you would OC the 9600 Pro it would crush a Ti 4200, but what are you aiming at?
oh look at this review:
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles/print.php?cid=3&id=855
In UT 2K3 the 9600 pro about doubs the performance of a Ti4200


Look at the dark blue marks for the 9600 Pro and the purple marks for the Ti4200, the 9600 Pro kinda pwnz the Ti4200 in almost every test, only when FSAA is enabled in some tests the i4200 wins simply becaus it has 4x 2 pipes and the 9600 Pro has 4x1 pipes

As where the 9600 Pro was a great performer in DX9 where as the GF4 Ti 4200 was limited, don't forget it only had 4 pipes and 4 vertex shader units.

The R300 & RV350 were adapted with Shader Model 2.0 as the NV25/28 series only Shader Model 1.3.

I think the R600 is gonna be a killer chip, it's gonna shock everyone when it releases Like R300 was, R600 might be, have a good feeling about that.