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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #30 - 03.01.07 at 11:58:04
 
Well the specs do state this:
  * 230W TDP PCI-SIG compliant

so I suspect that under load is under the 230 watts, not bad for a furball like that Wink

The AA Quallity also seems better on the ATi R600 card, especially also better performance at higher reso's in 3D mark 06 for instance:
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"This is an impressive result: ATI’s R600 scores about 8.2% better than nVidia’s current flagship, the GeForce 8800GTX, and it leads to the assumption that the card performs even better in higher resolutions. As said above, we will test on higher resolutions shortly. The graphics quality of the R600 is similar to the GeForce 8800GTX, while AA seems to work a bit better on short distances."

The drivers that were used were also beta based, so that could also only improve, thereby much better performance, look how 3dfx worked on the Voodoo 5 6000 as example, okay only that never came but the idea is the same.

"We have to note again that these results come from a pre-release driver which has not been optimized yet."

My theory is that the X2800XT has the 900Mhz GDDR3 which would be 1800Mhz DDR and the X2800 XTX has the faster 1100Mhz GDDR4 which would be 2200Mhz DDR.

Januari 8 will show a test of a CrossFire setup of 2 R600 cards, let's hope for some pics too!
"Once we have a secondary R600 card and can run an R600 CrossFire Test, we will also test how the card is performing against two GeForce 8800GTX in SLI mode. So check back frequently for article updates. Most probably we will extend this article with two R600 cards around January 8th, 2007."

http://level505.com/2006/12/30/the-full-ati-r600-test/2/

In Lost Cost the R600 comes to power all the way and leaves it's counterparts behind with ease.
"Particle simulation is done quite realistically, and when played at higher resolutions, i.e. 2560×1600, this game is a blast. However, we stick to our 1600×1200 test for now, and proudly present you the following frame rates:"
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"These frame rates underline the extensive shader capabilities of ATI’s R600.
Unlike the graphics quality in Battlefield 2, the R600 shines in Half-Life 2: Lost Coast with excellent AA and AF processing at almost no impact on frame rates.
The HDR rending quality of the R600 is excellent and adds substantially to the graphics; future owners of ATI’s upcoming flagship will love the graphics this card is capable of rendering. ATI definitely did lots of improvements here, which surprisingly does not compromise the frame rate. Two thumbs up!

Until now, the R600 is a clear winner."


the one that has been tested is the one with 1GB GDD3 @ 900Mhz aka 1800Mhz DDR Wink so the scores should be refering to the ATi Radeon X2800XT model, the XTX model would be that card with 1GB 512Bit GDDR4 @ 1100Mhz aka 2200Mhz DDR, that card is gonna be the dream card for my part hehe, can't wait to get my hands on that thing espeacially in CF mode, damn, that's gonna be lot's of fun riding it. Grin
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #31 - 08.01.07 at 20:09:25
 
I've heard of another delay! is this true Shocked
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #32 - 08.01.07 at 23:10:02
 
Dunno AMD's official launch for the card would be January 22nd 2007, but yes there are rumors ofcourse which state that the R600 aka X2800 series will be launched mid of March. heh.

But remember rumors should be seen a gossip nothing more Wink
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #33 - 09.01.07 at 20:49:16
 
okay it aint no R600 yet but here is the Dual X1950 Pro 2x 256MB GDDR3 card, heh looks like that ASUS AN7800GT Dual thing they did about a year ago heh:

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here the source of that Godfather thing from Sapphire lol
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5624

and here a picture of how the Rev.A0 First R600's looked like!

Might even make our V6K's look small heh!
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I think it's a bogus post from VR Zone, let's just prey to Jedi Master Yoda that this will not happen, man I'm happy I took the X1900XTX + X1950 XTX CF setup! heh they look dwarfed compared to that uhm thing. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4461

But as usual VR-Zone has a very good reputation for NV news but on the ATi side it's one of the most unreliable ATi sources, a member of the dutch ATi forum told me this, he also made all 48 topics Wink He claims that this info is from an Nvidia employee who hasn't have the brains about ATi's upcomming monster.
It's because that the most faulty ionfo of ATi cards came from VR-Zone, nvidiots I think lol Roll Eyes

"VR-Zone staat er om bekend vrij nauwkeurig te zijn wanneer het aankomt op informatie wat betreft nVidia (vanwege insider connecties). Wat betreft ATI informatie hebben ze echt een hele slechte reputatie aangezien in het verleden heel wat (verkeerde) ATI informatie gewoon van nVidia kwam.

Dit nieuws lijkt echter vrij 'neutraal', maar ondanks dat toch met een korreltje zou nemen."


we should take it as a load of bull Wink
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #34 - 10.01.07 at 19:53:44
 
Crikey! That thing's bigger than a bulldogs dangly bits! Shocked

LOL! Grin
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #35 - 10.01.07 at 19:56:10
 
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Crikey! That thing's bigger than a bulldogs dangly bits! Shocked

LOL! Grin


remember it's from VR-Zone where all the Pro-VN fans are and that info came basicly from an Nvidian user, so most ;ikely it's a false image Wink

Just to give an idea how Nvidians make people believe on false info just to promote thier cards Roll Eyes
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #36 - 10.01.07 at 22:17:34
 
Regardless of how valid that CAD Image might be (or not).

I've too read in numerous places that the R600 PCB is gigantic and will indeed not fit in all PC cases.

Since we're talking AMD (and I already got a Radeon 1900XT Wink ), I'm rather waiting for the new CPU releases *g*
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #37 - 10.01.07 at 23:04:49
 
yes FalconFly there are many stories that the R600 would be big but that was only for the Rev.A0 prototypes the first revisions Wink

The Rev.A1 prototypes were about 27.2CM in lenght, a little shorter than the 8800 GTX cards, I got this info from the dutch ATi site which is very reliable of ATi information.

But yes your R580 XT will do fine for the upcomming years, so will my R580 XTX / R580+ XTX CFE CrossFire Setup, not planinig to go to a new chip again, I'm looking for a CPU upgrade also an Opteron 185 S939 cpu, it's an older sockety but I'm quite sure I will find one, there is always ebay hehe.

oh btw the cards will keep the name ATi Radeon Graphics, so we are talking ATi again Wink
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BTW here ATi's new logo 8)
http://www.3dfxzone.it/news/puntatore.php?uid=4046

The old one:
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The new one Tongue
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The new one has more style, though the old has the nice chrome boarder around it Smiley


So @ least our ATi wonders will keep thier sweet red ATi logo's and hopefully the red PCB as well Smiley
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #38 - 12.01.07 at 02:46:35
 
HW-Setup.it got a DOC on the specs... Grin

http://www.hwsetup.it/public/files/56_reg1.doc

OR direct from Sapphire...

http://www.sapphiretech.com/uk/pressfiles/56_reg1.doc

WHOA! Shocked 8)
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #39 - 12.01.07 at 16:46:49
 
Very nice find Paulpsomiadis !! 8)

Chipset               
2 x ATI RADEON  X1950 PRO [2x RV570]         

Engine clock      
2x 580MHz [580Mhz per RV570 Core]       

Shader units      
36 + 36 = 72         

Pixel Pipelines      
12 + 12 = 24         

Memory clock      
1400 MHz GDDR3         

Memory interface      
256-bit         

Memory Support      
2x 512MB = 1024 MB         

Cooling      Active
dual slot cooling         

Bus Interface      
PCI-Express x16         

Variable display outputs      
DVI-I / DVI-I / TV out         

Max 3D resolution       
2560x1600 (dual-link DVI)
1024 x 768 (TV out)         

Hardware Features      
DirectX® 9
ShaderModel 3.0         

Software Feature      
ATI AvivoTM       

The ultimate GeForce 7950 GX2 killer! NV is gonna be PWNed big time with these beauties Whoo Hoo , Crikey that's gonna hurt 'em!
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #40 - 24.01.07 at 02:24:39
 
well my friends it's finally so far, here a small preview of how Ruby's mouth will look like on the ATi R600 VPU, and it's just the lips them selves which have the max detail Wink
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here compared to the R520 aka X1800 series:
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here the preview it's self Smiley
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=7729
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #41 - 24.01.07 at 03:16:14
 
Shame they didn't use a higher res image compared to the R520 version... Undecided

...also the smile is the other way round... Tongue

Ah well, here's looking forward to R600! Cheesy
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #42 - 27.01.07 at 01:38:32
 
VR-Zone are pushine their 'ultra long card' story again... Roll Eyes

http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=4529

We shall see... Wink
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #43 - 28.01.07 at 18:35:55
 
remember that when technology made all things smaller?
that time is gone now
ATi R600:
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ATi Rage XL:
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see you can compare size directly with those images because pic scale is almost same
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Re: Meet ATi's R600!!!
Reply #44 - 28.01.07 at 18:54:09
 
its as long as a Voodoo5 6000AGP

its bigger, but 100.000 times faster Roll Eyes
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