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09.12.03 at 07:45:54
 
There is a great test of the XGI Volari Duo V8 Ultra on this http://www.hardware-tweaker.de/HTML/Home_4/Overclocking/Artikel_Teil1/XGI_Volari... page.

An english review will be come soon there!
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Reply #1 - 09.12.03 at 09:41:44
 
Hmm...

Unfortunately, it currently doesn't look good for XGI there.

I'd say let's wait a few weeks so they can polish their Drivers.
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Reply #2 - 09.12.03 at 12:41:51
 
nevertheless, it's a good beginning..just a first step. let's see what their next gen boards can handle (if they'll earn enough from the first gen)
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Reply #3 - 09.12.03 at 15:54:05
 
Hmm...link seems to be down at this time? ???

Dang it! I wanna see that review! Angry

Oh well, I'll try again later... Roll Eyes
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Reply #4 - 09.12.03 at 20:23:33
 
this card  seems to be a new FX5800 Ultra : kick ass in directX 7 but impotent in Pixel Shader 2.0
PS 1.x are'nt tested but maybe they suck too
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Reply #5 - 09.12.03 at 20:36:51
 
Still, it's going to be an exotic card, maybe I'll buy one nevertheless for my Collection (despite possible performance issues)...

..but for now, certainly not at the current Retail Price.

Given enough time, though, I'm confident that XGI will put its big VRAM bandwidth to a quite good use. The rest is only the right placement into the right market segment (pricing).

...we could need a 3rd player in the Graphics Market.

KyroX isn't on the horizon yet, and DeltaChrome may take some time to come around.
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Reply #6 - 10.12.03 at 09:43:35
 
However, as I've heard, the card is using waaaaay too much power, given it's technology (microns) and actual performance. Perhaps for some users, having a secondary 400W ATX power source is not a funny thing (the Volari is not using 400W, but who knows what might follow)...
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Reply #7 - 11.12.03 at 14:21:44
 
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However, as I've heard, the card is using waaaaay too much power, given it's technology (microns) and actual performance. Perhaps for some users, having a secondary 400W ATX power source is not a funny thing (the Volari is not using 400W, but who knows what might follow)...


Remember: the same discussion rose up when the Voodoo5 was released...only some recognized the power connection was implemented to relieve the mainboard's power supply. i bet you won't need both connectors on the volari when your mainboard's strong enough.
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Reply #8 - 12.12.03 at 10:45:00
 
Given the fact that a P4 is already using 100W+ power, it is obviously that you will need a separate power connector for Volary. Also, if someone noted, the Radeon 9700 pro, is using a separate ATX power connector for the consumption it needs.

So, the separate connector will continue to be a reality, unless all the motherboards will be designed to supply and regulate 300W+ power. It will make the boards twice as costly, and perhaps 1/4 bigger than they are now. Actually no use for making "strong" boards to cope with the big consumption of Video cards. Keep a free AT 5/12V connector free. You'll never know when you might actually need one!
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Reply #9 - 12.12.03 at 12:06:14
 
Heh, just don't use too many of 'em or you'll kill your PSU! Shocked

Ooh lookit, there's funny smoke coming from the PSU! Roll Eyes

Heheheheh! Grin
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Reply #10 - 12.12.03 at 13:21:38
 
right, damn...but i use a 'be quiet!' 400W PSU and this one doesn't care! *lol*
the volari ultra v8 duo uses (2d/3d engine) 55W/130W, right? that's pretty much, but i won't care if you're not using a P4..  Grin
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Reply #11 - 15.12.03 at 10:14:52
 
This whole discussion about power usage, brings to memory the VIA C3 processors, which use 11W for 866Mhz. Even if the C3 is using no SSE or 3DNow!Extended, it is amazing how it can be that efficient, when a P3 at that frequency (which were actually less power consuming at the same frequency as the P4 at 1.4Ghz), is using estimatedly 40W.

If the CPU's and GPU's were build as efficient as possible, and given the fact that actually the thing that really counts today(as it counted yesterday), is still pure Mhz power, no matter what "superset" is added: SSE,MMX, 3DNow.
A fast enough CPU, with lots of cache, would cope amazingly well, and it must be a winner at least for laptops. But even there you see no C3 and no ProSavageDDR on the specification.
Speaking trully, I guess noone bothers too much about consumption, as long as power supplies are manufactured to take the load. The "green" (ecology/efficiency/environment) spirit is obviously kind of dead anyway...
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Reply #12 - 15.12.03 at 10:40:21
 
Well, that Efficiency (in the example of the VIA C3 Design) unfortunately had a price :

Performance

The Performance of the VIA C3 CPU (given the MHz) is absolutely underground. That still leaves it Power-efficent and good enough for basic Office Productivity, but for anything beyond that it is outperformed even by 3-4 year old Processors, running at much lower MHz.
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Reply #13 - 15.12.03 at 16:44:52
 
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A fast enough CPU, with lots of cache, would cope amazingly well, and it must be a winner at least for laptops.


have in mind that cache is the cpu component which produces most heat --> the more cache you got, the hotter your cpu runs...
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Reply #14 - 17.12.03 at 10:28:12
 
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have in mind that cache is the cpu component which produces most heat --> the more cache you got, the hotter your cpu runs...


Use of a large L3 cache (1 or 2Mb), on the motherboard, that was the main idea, not a large on-die CPU cache.
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