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New mobo with 3.3V AGP
04.01.06 at 22:07:58

Well since using some parts from friends box to test his parts, I ended up frying my own box. Really irritated with my self for doing it on this machine but....... Anyway, this mother board was a ECS K7S5A using DDR 2100 and an AMD 2100+ in it. CPU and memory are fine along with the new power supply I bought for it, but not getting any beeps from mobo with the memory sticks out of it. CPU and power supply fan kick on, but that's it. Sooooo I would like to know what some of you guys are using for your Voodoos. This box used to have my V3 in it (that still works) and my Kyro II 4500 (also still works) in it. Just some ideas on what to look for on pricewatch would be cool. Not really concerned with brand as long as it'll do the older cards with a newer CPU and DDR ram. Thanks guys.

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gamma742 God Member Offline 3Dfx Gamer Posts: 1668 San Diego, CA USA Gender:	Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP Reply #1 - 04.01.06 at 22:39:47 I would recommend a EPoX EP-8K3A+ or the Epox EP-8K5A2+ Both excellent boards most would agree.
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jandarsun8 God Member Offline Posts: 712 Minneapolis, MN Gender:	Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP Reply #2 - 04.01.06 at 22:45:21 Thanks Gamma.
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jandarsun8 God Member Offline Posts: 712 Minneapolis, MN Gender:	Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP Reply #3 - 06.01.06 at 05:08:22 any other boards to look at that will support AMD 2000+ to 2800+ that will still run a 3.3 Volt AGP port with DDR? Looked for a list of boards on google but either not typing in the right words for the search, or there isn't one out there. Thanks for some additional help with this. Just would like to get this board replaced soon.
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NitroX infinity YaBB Moderator Offline Posts: 1936 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP Reply #4 - 06.01.06 at 10:38:51 http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=119
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IG88 Full Member Offline Posts: 209 Australia Gender:	Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP Reply #5 - 06.01.06 at 13:50:48 ga 7dxe supports 2100xp max run v55000 on it still got my ECS K7S5A for back up and a 1.6xp to go with it , locally i can get a secondhand system so cheap it barely worth building from scratch!
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jandarsun8 God Member Offline Posts: 712 Minneapolis, MN Gender:	Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP Reply #6 - 06.01.06 at 16:33:18 Thanks Nitro! This helped a ton.
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NitroX infinity YaBB Moderator Offline Posts: 1936 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP Reply #7 - 06.01.06 at 16:40:08 You're welcome. btw; it's NitroX not Nitro So often, people get confused because of the capital letter on the end
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gamma742 God Member Offline 3Dfx Gamer Posts: 1668 San Diego, CA USA Gender:	Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP Reply #8 - 07.01.06 at 16:23:28 Grab this one, it's the one several here are using with their V6K http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6837504938
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jandarsun8 God Member Offline Posts: 712 Minneapolis, MN Gender:	Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP Reply #9 - 07.01.06 at 17:25:11 THANKS MAN!!
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Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP
Reply #10 - 23.01.06 at 11:57:13

How the heck can you run a Voodoo 3 on a new system that uses DDR? DDR is very new. Thinking of a Motherboard that supports DDR memory and that uses AGP version 1.0 for a voodoo 3 is basically impossible.

My ECS p6bx-A+ motherboard is AGP 1.0, I use my voodoo 3 in it, but it's limited. Most Pentium 4's that use AGP use agp 2.0, which is backwards for agp 1.0 /not compatible /upside down teethmarks. My pc I use for my voodoo uses sdram, pc66 or pc100 (can't do pc133 because of fsb limitation, has many hardware limitations).
It would be a start of the art pc for 1998. I don't see how any new PC could use a voodoo 3 agp.

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Reply #11 - 23.01.06 at 12:32:17

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How the heck can you run a Voodoo 3 on a new system that uses DDR? DDR is very new. Thinking of a Motherboard that supports DDR memory and that uses AGP version 1.0 for a voodoo 3 is basically impossible.

I don't know where you got that idea from but I can tell you that DDR already existed in 2000. AGP 2.0 was introduced somewhere in 1999 or 2000 so it's not strange that there are motherboards with AGP1.0 and DDR support.

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My ECS p6bx-A+ motherboard is AGP 1.0, I use my voodoo 3 in it, but it's limited. Most Pentium 4's that use AGP use agp 2.0, which is backwards for agp 1.0 /not compatible /upside down teethmarks. My pc I use for my voodoo uses sdram, pc66 or pc100 (can't do pc133 because of fsb limitation, has many hardware limitations).
It would be a start of the art pc for 1998. I don't see how any new PC could use a voodoo 3 agp.

You obviously don't know much about hardware, perhaps you should seek out articles on the recent history (1992 - now) of computers.

Besides AGP 1.0, 2.0 and 3.0 there are also the universal AGP busses which support multiple speeds and voltages. My ASUS P4S533 motherboard (Pentium 4 with DDR) for instance has a Universal AGP1.0/2.0 bus. It can deliver two-speed (2x) 3.3Volt or four-speed (4x) 1.5Volt. I had my V5 working like a charm on it. And there are far more motherboards which support Voodoo's. Just see the link in my earlier post.

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Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP
Reply #12 - 23.01.06 at 12:47:48

I mispelled something /typo. Agp 2.0 which isn't compatible with 1.0, vice versa. AGP 2.0 can fit in AGP 3.0, but agp 3.0 can't fit into 2.0... I know about this whole thing, so please don't say I don't know anything about voodoos. I did my research. I know about AGP Pro, 1, 2, 3, etc.
I do make some spelling mistakes. And the majority of Pentium 4s out there don't have agp 1.0. Maybe for a very short time petium 4 mobo's support agp 1.0 which are rare if any at all. DDR wasn't the main player in 1999 or 2000, it was SDram. I remember the change well, going from EDO ram to SDram. DDR wasn't common until like 2 years later.

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Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP
Reply #13 - 23.01.06 at 13:04:43

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Maybe for a very short time petium 4 mobo's support agp 1.0 which are rare if any at all. DDR wasn't the main player in 1999 or 2000, it was SDram. I remember the change well, going from EDO ram to SDram. DDR wasn't common until like 2 years later.

Well, AMD jumped on the DDR-train earlier, Intel switched from SDR first to RD-RAM (RAMBUS) but after they understood that RD-RAM was too expensive they got on the DDR-train, too. That's why there are so few chipsets which support P4, SDR-RAM and AGP3.3V.
Furthermore Intel changed their CPU-sockets in that time more often (from socket 370 to 423 and then to 478) while AMD stayed at their socket A (462) so older chipsets could support newer CPUs with a simple BIOS-update. The KT333 which can support AGP3.3V supports officially up to XP 2800+ so in theory you can combine a XP 2800+ with a Voodoo Banshee, a Voodoo 3 or a VSA-100 based card easily.

As you can see in the thread linked by NitroX Infinity there are many AMD-mainboards which support DDR and AGP3.3V. If you don't need so much graphics power but more CPU power than 1 GHz or something that could be a reasonable combination.

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Re: New mobo with 3.3V AGP
Reply #14 - 23.01.06 at 13:09:05

There aren't many Intel P4 motherboards around supporting AGP 1.0 and DDR because when the P4 came out, Intel had a contract with Rambus because of which they were only allowed to use and support RDRAM and not SDRAM. Intel started supporting DDR around 2002 when AGP 2.0 was readily settled in. Up until that time, third-party manufacturers like SiS and VIA did make P4/DDR/AGP1.0 chipsets.

I think you've been looking too much at P4 motherboards with Intel chipsets.

Edit; lol, seems I was a bit too slow with typing Cheesy

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