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Reply #225 - 30.03.07 at 10:55:46
 
Wasn't it today when R600 should have been released, was it??
put where is it ???
maybe they released it in evening in some kinda social occasion

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this 2+1 Crossfire with 3 X2900XTX would be super machine of all time  8) would it be possible if attach 2+1 Crossfire system one of those ageia physics card. 4 graphic card at one time  8)

Water cooled r600
http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4866
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Reply #226 - 31.03.07 at 03:22:38
 
heh the Ageia Physics P1 would be like doing nothing since an ATi R580 VPU has like up to 7 times the physical rendering power than the Ageia Physics P1and an ATi R600 would be like 14 to maybe 18 P1's, so by adding an extra P1 via the legacy PCI32bit slow would end up as a pointless as usless effect, I would rather ad a nice PC Flashed 3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 PCI Macintosh instead Wink
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Reply #227 - 11.04.07 at 20:58:55
 
here some good pics of a X2900XTX OEM card also with out the cooler!!!


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Reply #228 - 11.04.07 at 22:10:22
 
Damn, this thing is so stylish Grin

When are the retail ones gonna be released finally??
Next month? I can't wait any longer Cry
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Reply #229 - 11.04.07 at 23:02:33
 
end of April I think heh this card is gonna scare the lights out of many gamers heh.
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Reply #230 - 11.04.07 at 23:09:20
 
LOL not to mention many power supplies as well.   Tongue
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Reply #231 - 24.04.07 at 19:16:34
 
heh it's not that bad as many think lol, the X2900 XT 512MB 512Bit GDDR3 model will only take 200 watts while the retail XTX model will do 240 watts Smiley

An Ultra High End gamer wouldn't mind about the power, all he she or it wants is the most powerfull and fastest 3D rendering on his, hers or it's screen Wink

here the info about the power consumptions of the cards Smiley
http://www.fx57.net/?p=574

not that bad as it seems do keep in mind the X2900 XTX consists of 721 Million Transistors with 1024 MB 512Bit GDDR4 @ 2.2 Ghz aka 1.1Ghz physical

UPDATE!!!!
Well here she is ladies & gentlemen Smiley

ATi Radeon HD 2900 XT 512bit 512MB GDDR3!
http://www.dailytech.com/ATI+Radeon+HD+290...article7043.htm

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Now this looks damn cool! :ubermicro:
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"Onto the benchmarks. The tests were conducted on an Intel D975XBX2 BadAxe2, Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 and 2x1GB DDR2-800 MHz. The operating system on the test system was Windows XP, with a fresh install before benchmarking each card. Testing of the AMD ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT was performed using the 8.361 Catalyst RC4 drivers, while the GeForce 8800 GTS used ForceWare 158.19 drivers. "

heh do keep in mind the drivers used for the 2900 XT are old beta drivers! While the ones from the GeForce 8800GTS are perfect WHQL drivers, so the performance wil only get better once the drivers get renewed for the HD 2900 XT cards. Wink

so here some benches, a shame that 1280 x 1024 x 32 was used 1560 x 1600 x32 would of been a far better reso just to get the 512Bit memory bus utilized morely heh.

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Not bad for beta drivers eh?
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Reply #232 - 24.04.07 at 19:51:47
 
Looks allright so far -> But I want the xtx 8)
Hopefully it'll be released soon.

I ordered myself a new e4400 + board + 2GB RAM today, I just couldn't wait Cheesy

So far, my X1800XT has to do the job, till the new beast is released (I love the wordplay Grin )...
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Reply #233 - 24.04.07 at 20:21:03
 
KOOOOOL! 8)
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Reply #234 - 24.04.07 at 20:33:50
 
Hm, these Results are okay (apart from the Power consumption).

With the 65nm refresh later this year, I think these will become very nice parts that will excel nicely in DX10 (although I'll never get to see that, Win2000 SP4 will remain my last MicroSoft OS) Smiley
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Reply #235 - 24.04.07 at 22:24:31
 
yeah well I'm still happy with my X1900 XTX + X1950 XTX CrossFire Editon CrossFire setup:
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here the max FSAA x14 Setting this was before I put in the V5PCIMac hehe
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It does everything I want it too and really C&C 3 Tiberium Wars Kane Edition & FSX @ 1440 x 900 x32 with FSAA x14 AF x16HQ + Adaptive AA @ Quallity mode + max HDR as FarCry but then without the HDR since FarCry 1.33 has no HDR, these games really shine and they run very fluid on it Smiley
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The bluryness in C&C3 is the heat of the exhausts of the aircraft as other vehicles & buildings as the heat from the earth's surface, this technique comes to life with 3dfx's Motion Blur! So cool that 3dfx tech is being utilized in the games of today heh! even Soft Shadows, Soft Reflections as Field Of Depth are being utilized as well Grin so cool. 8)

And heh DX10 may seem nice but not needed for now since games like Crysis will support DX9.0c as well and that API can still give breath taking effects on this CF setup Smiley

But I would go for 2 HD 2900XT cards since the 1GB model would use more power and the difference qua speed might not be so big afterall, since the reso I use is 1440 x 900 x32 a CF setup of 2 1GB cards might be overkill for the reso I need it for.

that with max settings + FSAA x24 AF x16HQ + max HDR which would make Flight Sim X run fluid in DX10 mode but this is a future concern.

once Vista get's 100% reliable like 2000 Pro as XP pro are now we are about around December or Januari 2008 that is when I will strike for 2 HD 2900 based cards they will be alot cheaper and I'll still have enough speed for what I need them for Wink

And yes Win2K Pro + Rollup1 for SP4 is my main OS as well for the X800XT PE setup and XP pro + SP2 for the CF setup , as the laptop and Win2K3 Server Edition will be installed on my upcomming Dual AthlonMP 2200+ server 8)

BTW here's more new on how the HD 2900XT OC's it seems to a great OCer heh! 2000Mhz DDR is not a problem and the performance gains aren't bad at all!
http://www.dailytech.com/Overclocking+the+R600/article7044.htm

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And that for a card under the 399 US dollar mark not bad I must say though it will be about 440 euro's in the EU Smiley

Oh Anotherthing the dutch Computer store allready has a HD 2900 XT in thier sale assortiment  heh!
EUR 380,00
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http://www.sallandautomatisering.nl/?pid=34021

Only thing is how the heck do they know when it really will hit the market? Since nobody really has  aprecise launch date, some say end of April others say mid of May.
Silly marketing sometimes.

One thing is true it's not that expensive at all really @ least that's a great advantage 8)

Btw got some new pics of AMD's ATi Radeon HD2900XT 512MB GDDR3 card, so here they are! 8)

ATi Radeon HD 2900 XT 512Bit 512MB GDDR3 Smiley
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Won't take long my friends, it won't take long anymore.
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Reply #236 - 27.04.07 at 22:58:20
 
Hi,
what do you know about Ati X1950 Pro Agp's problems?
I've found in sapphire's forum a lot of people that accuse the same instability...
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Reply #237 - 28.04.07 at 02:11:52
 
hmm never heard about problesm with that card, since all the lads I know who have it have a VIA chipset or an AMD chipset but to be honest it shouldn't really matter what chipset you have ! Smiley

The motherboard must have a good AGP 3.0 slot and the card isn't reverse compatible to AGP x4 mode, so maybe the lads with AGP 4 mobo's have the biggest troubles, chipsets like the AMD AM760MPX for instance have troubles with AGP x8 boards beyond 9800XT, the 9800XT is the latest supported ATi card which uses the ATi R360 VPU.

The GeForce 5900 Ultra with the NV35 GPU is the latest supported stable nvidia card for the AMD AM760MPX.
Dunno bout 5950Ultra since that uses a different bios as GPU which is a NV38 Smiley

Anyways to get back to the problems what kind of problems are that actually?
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Reply #238 - 28.04.07 at 12:31:19
 
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Hi,
what do you know about Ati X1950 Pro Agp's problems?
I've found in sapphire's forum a lot of people that accuse the same instability...

I heard lot's about it. Many people have problems with overheating (with both the AGP and PCIe version) ...strangly enough. The normal Sapphire X1950Pro runs fine though (have tested 2 cards).

The 'problem' with the X1950 Pro are the voltage regulators. They get quite hot. If you install a Zalman cooler on the card, the card will crash after a while (black screen). This is because those coolers can't cool the voltage regulators. The original X1950Pro heatsink/fan from Sapphire does cool the voltage regulators and won't cause any trouble.

This image shows a Zalman cooler with additional cooling on the voltage regulators. They shouldn't have problems.

Second problem is (which many cards have, even 3dfx cards but since they can survive lot's of heat they won't crash) dust. Fans get dirty because of dust and cards like the X1950 Pro with cooling like this (click!) get dirty faster. The dust will become stuck inside the heatsink and blocks any airflow. The temperature will increase because of the lack of airflow. When this happens the card can easily exceeds 100C with the fan blowing at 100% of the speed.

By the way: Other cards with this fandesign will have the same problems. They get dirty inside. Especially in a smoker's room :X.
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Reply #239 - 28.04.07 at 13:09:46
 
Seems also the Bridge Chip on the X1950 AGP series gets extremely hot.

Some people had to glue old Coolers onto it to get the Card run stable.
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