@ultima,

Many years ago I did some benchmark using a C2D and ASUS WS PCI-x.

Perhaps it can help you.


3DMark2001SE
V6k@166MHz (AGP2PCI) on PCI Bus - 33MHz - 4000Points
V6k@166MHz (AGP2PCI) on PCI Bus - 50MHz - 4800Points
V6k@166MHz (AGP2PCI - Modded) on PCI Bus - 66MHz - 5300Points


3DMark2001SE
V5 5500 PCI - PCI-X 66MHz - 3700Points
V5 5500 PCI - PCI 33Mhz - 3000Points
V5 5500 AGP (AGP2PCI modded) - PCI-X 66MHz - 3700Points.

- Oscar.

ok, here we go, very late, but still:

tests are done with cpu at 2.26Ghz and 1GB ram, not quite stable enough yet at 2.38Ghz (40Mhz pci)

3DMark99MAX @ default settings @ PCI33 = 6997 3DMarks
3DMark99MAX @ default settings @ PCI66 = 7447 3DMarks difference = 450 3DMarks

3DMark2000 @ default settings @ PCI33 =4356 3DMarks
3DMark2000 @ default settings @ PCI66 =5052 3DMarks difference = 696 3DMarks

3DMark2001SE @ default settings @ PCI33 = 1976 3DMarks
3DMark2001SE @ default settings @ PCI66 = 3070 3DMarks difference = 1094 3DMarks
3DMark2001SE @ 1600x1200x32 @ PCI66 = 1512 3DMarks



Too bad my main rig doesn't have XP on it, it does have pci66 slots, along with 2 opteron 4280's @ 3.2Ghz.

It seems that once the CPU is not the bottleneck anymore, the PCI-bus will be te bottleneck. After all using a P2 450 the differences between AGP/PCI are almost zero and using the PIII-S 1400 the differences are getting bigger using lower resolutions. Because your Athlon XP is much faster the CPU speed is not an issue but the 33MHz PCI-bus just can't keep up.

I also wonder about the score of 3DMark2001 on 1600x1200 with the 33MHz PCI bus. Can you test that?

Thandor wrote on 15.12.13 at 11:32:23:


The results are in, 1274 was the score

And I gotta say, this is more work then I expected; today I tested the 5500PCI @ 33Mhz and 66Mhz in 3DMark2000 and 2001SE at the following resolutions:

800x600x16
800x600x32
1024x768x16
1024x768x32
1280x1024x16
1280x1024x32
1600x1200x16
1600x1200x32

Only strange thing was, in 3DMark2000 it wouldn't run the test @ 1600x1200x32, the x16 it did, but on both pci speeds it crapped out with an error, maybe too little videoram?

And a friend of mine will loan me his 5500 AGP so I can test with that too

This is the list of cards currently up for test:

Voodoo5 5500 @ PCI33 = DONE
Voodoo5 5500 @ PCI66 = DONE
Voodoo5 5500 64MB AGP =
Voodoo3 3500 16MB AGP =
Voodoo3 3000 16MB AGP =
Voodoo3 2000 16MB AGP =
Matrox G550 32MB AGP =
Geforce2 MX400 64MB =
Geforce2 GTS 32MB AGP = DONE
Geforce2 Ti 64MB AGP = DONE
Geforce4 MX440 64MB AGP = DONE
Kyro II 64MB AGP =
TnT2 32MB AGP =

if anyone has a suggestion for a card to add, lemme know. I won't be doing tests with 3DMark99MAX for this, since it won't let me change resolution in the free version, 2000 and 2001SE I can change all I want.

EDIT:

I had DX9.0a on windows 98 SE, the Voodoo5 would run all benchmarks just fine, but when trying the GeForce series, they began nagging about dx. 8.1 is used with the rest of the cards

Hello, my first post here.
I am not as skilled as Oschkar or other power users here.
I will be interested by your tests, I did some in the past.

All V5500 Pci, not only mac versions, have hardware capability to run @66mhz if receiving from the mobo a "run @66mhz" signal.

Briefly, this signal can be send to the V5500 pci  by 2 ways :
-Pci-X slot mobo direct plugging,
-Pci2PciE adapters (adapter must be compatible with Pci 66mhz cards) because the mobo will recognize the V5500 66mhz hardware capability through the PciE lane at the init and send the 66mhz signal to the V5500.

In my opinion, the difference between 33 and 66 mhz (everything else equal in your test) will be an average of 10% more in synthetics benchmarks like 3dmark.
In game, it depends on the CPU dependance, you will score more higher on games demanding a high CPU load.

V5500 will score higher on geometrics tests and the same on fillrate tests. So the fillrate will be the next bottleneck. Overclocking the 3dfx will help at this point, V5500 Pci takes often 185-190 mhz without modification.
At a certain point, with modern Cpu, the benefits are given by the cpu, not by the 3dfx. Some says it is artificial, that's true but if your game runs faster FPS, you will nevertheless enjoy it.

My tribute to the "66mhz way" on Pci-express.
Pictures of my V5500 (2900) dual-slot running @66 mhz.

Hello Mradu, thanks, I am interested by this thread, so I spoke of my experience with Pci-express adapters.

Best pict for V5500 "Glide Killer"



Thanks Osckhar.
It is pretty boring to set and unset the Pci-E mod
and Ccmos is necessary each time.

So I had benched the mod on 3DM2001SE
with Pci-Express set to 90 / 95 / 100 / 105
to examine the impact of Pci or Pci-E increase.

It shows that 10% more on I/O leads to 2,2%
more on global score.
So the result is that going on Pci from 33mhz to 66mhz (100% more on I/O)
leads to 22% points more on global socre and confirm yours scores from 3000 to 3700 points.

IMHO, Glide perfs are very dependant on Glide drivers files.

This mod can runs UT Glide very fast with good drivers.
I posted videos on Youtube, but only one in Glide.

Look at this one : "How many FPS on Glide UT 1280*124"
In this video I try to generate a high GPU load by firing rockets as fast as possible 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rEvfp437yI&list=UUoiMEZ7WL0u04lOnBMEDR2g

This is my mod video "Glide Killer emerge from past in 2014"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX8S7Wzs2IU&list=UUoiMEZ7WL0u04lOnBMEDR2g


I maybe could not perform tests next days but
please give me (safe) links where I can download 1 or 2
good Glide or Ogl benches and I will run as soon as possible.
Regards.

Hi Osckhar,

do you need some benchmarks as well from aa 5500PCI on a pci-x 133Mhz slot with dual opteron?

just for comparison ofcourse