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Reply #15 - 17.07.07 at 13:48:31
 
Sadly both Ati and Nvidia prefere to develop an enormous number of similar video board rather than to develop serious drivers. 3Dfx was different.
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Reply #16 - 17.07.07 at 13:50:05
 
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Go Voodoo man, @ least 3dfx shows us alot of pride Wink


<shakes head>

Have a Voodoo4 compatible with my Motherboard chipset that has functioning DVI output that will display at 1280 x 768 you can loan me?

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Reply #17 - 17.07.07 at 14:11:57
 
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<shakes head>

Have a Voodoo4 compatible with my Motherboard chipset that has functioning DVI output that will display at 1280 x 768 you can loan me?


heh a 16:9 reso it should work when using the correct monitor driver or a DDC monitor, autoconfig.

I suppose you allready tried that ?

Anyways I can't see what you are do'n let's say 12.784 KM from here.

Use the Voodoo4 4800 AGP Rev.A0 2600 that may get it done
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it should work exellently under win 2K pro with AmigaMerlin 3.1 R1 as AmigaMerlin 3.1 R11 or SFFT 47 Smiley

Yoda say's
"Don't shake head, think of other ways, resolve your problem you will. "

you could add extra reso'n in the .inf file dunno if this might work heh.

But then again if you say your X850 is so good in the gam'n rig, why not use your so called "precious time" with that card in the Shuttle sys instead of givin yourself as us such a hard time as waisting your so called "Precious Time" with the 9800 Pro?

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I'm glad my X850 gives me no problems in the gaming box. I'd perfer to own ATI for obvious reasons but see no reason to keep throwing money at a company who can't write drivers worth a damn.


I reckon your 9800 Pro has a compabillity problem with your shuttle mobo, as where the X850 might not as the 4800 and 6600GT either.

Just think'n of some idea's that might work, not offending you if that is how you may think of this situation.
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Reply #18 - 17.07.07 at 14:49:45
 
1) I have no intention of using a one of a kind 3dfx prototype in a media center.

2) I risk blowing up the power supply if I use a card that is too powerfull, which *I have already stated*

3) There is nothing wrong with the 9800pro, as it was pulled from a working machine and 95% if the problems I have related here are directly related to the driver working properly.

I have also already made it clear that this box actually shipped from Shuttle with a 9800Pro installed, I don't think Shuttle would be selling SFF systems with video boards that don't work.

See? This is a typical Obi/ATI post- Someone has a problem with ATI hardware and you leap to thier defense irregardless of facts.

Pointless to the extreme.

Could I get it to work after tinkering with it for days? I'm sure I could if I wanted to invest a rediculous amount of time trying different driver revisions and control panels.

But whats the point? My time is valuable.

1) Install NV board.
2) Load drivers.
3) Watch movie.

10 minutes tops.


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Reply #19 - 17.07.07 at 14:54:58
 
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1) I have no intention of using a one of a kind 3dfx prototype in a media center.

2) I risk blowing up the power supply if I use a card that is too powerfull, which *I have already stated*

3) There is nothing wrong with the 9800pro, as it was pulled from a working machine and 95% if the problems I have related here are directly related to the driver working properly.

See? This is a typical Obi/ATI post- Someone has a problem with ATI hardware and you leap to thier defense irregardless of facts.

Pointless to the extreme.

Could I get it to work after tinkering with it for days? I'm sure I could if I wanted to invest a rediculous amount of time trying different driver revisions and control panels.

But whats the point? My time is valuable.

1) Install NV board.
2) Load drivers.
3) Watch movie.

10 minutes tops.



heh uhm yeaH morely a typical gary post of blaming his problems on somebody else.
Laying your problems on others is that what you like do'n  :')

As if people want to read rants!! come on Are you facing the meaning of reallity here?

My time is more valuble sorry man but you are go'n too far here also one of the reasons I left here before so ghey and so on, blaming it on me and so on, all what i as do'n is trying to help you out find other ways but you read my posts as if they were jokes, then I'm like go else where.

is the rock okay?
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Reply #20 - 17.07.07 at 14:56:19
 
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heh uhm yeaH morely a typical gary post of blaming his problems on somebody else. kanker ami


Oh? Please explain.
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Reply #21 - 17.07.07 at 14:58:55
 
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As if people want to read rants


Err, you have, several times in fact.

So the answer is, yes some people do actually read rants.
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Reply #22 - 17.07.07 at 15:02:32
 
this is one of them moments man
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1) I have no intention of using a one of a kind 3dfx prototype in a media center.

2) I risk blowing up the power supply if I use a card that is too powerfull, which *I have already stated*

3) There is nothing wrong with the 9800pro, as it was pulled from a working machine and 95% if the problems I have related here are directly related to the driver working properly.

I have also already made it clear that this box actually shipped from Shuttle with a 9800Pro installed, I don't think Shuttle would be selling SFF systems with video boards that don't work.

See? This is a typical Obi/ATI post- Someone has a problem with ATI hardware and you leap to thier defense irregardless of facts.

Pointless to the extreme.

Could I get it to work after tinkering with it for days? I'm sure I could if I wanted to invest a rediculous amount of time trying different driver revisions and control panels.

But whats the point? My time is valuable.

1) Install NV board.
2) Load drivers.
3) Watch movie.

10 minutes tops.





Kinda ghey ya know, and really I don't care if it's an ATi card, NV card S3 Card , matrox card or what ever, it just how you see my posts as spam instead of the truth.

here in the netherlands we have a forum naemd Gathering of Tweakers we have had 65 ATi topics and they are still going on dtrong as almost 75 nvidia topis as that of Matrox, SiS , XGI and so on we don';t care who ahs what brand, you probably do.

Just get to the point of your problem, you don't have to make a big rant about it, so pointless.

@ x-3dfx.com I would of locked this allready really.
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Reply #23 - 17.07.07 at 15:04:52
 
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Sadly both Ati and Nvidia prefere to develop an enormous number of similar video board rather than to develop serious drivers. 3Dfx was different.


Actually, I believe that both ATi and nVidia have their fair share of very unique technology today, of course they'll care more about GPU development than designing the boards. And for the card manufacturers it has just become uneconomical to design their custom layouts. But there are exceptions, like single-board SLI/CF solutions for instance. Wink

@Gary: I can understand why you're mad, i stopped using ATi cards because of software problems way back, and i have to admit I'm quite the NV fanboy today. Built a machine using a X1950XT this weekend and had serious CCC installation/operation problems because of a missing .NET 2.0. Basically, setup decided to put a crippled CCC installation on the machine instead of aborting setup after the failed .NET 2.0 detection. Installation of .NET 2.0 and then a clean reinstallation of Catalyst+CCC resolved the problem, and yes, this had cost me valuable time.

But then again, time can't be THAT valuable after all, 'cause we do not only obviously have the time to rant about it, but also to answer to those rants and deliver yet another flame thread. Wink

Maybe it would be better to give ATi your feedback, not some 3dfx forum on the web, where not a single ATi developer or other staff member will ever read this. Tell those, who are responsible. Doing so finally changes things, it may take time, but it only works by telling the developers. (Think AA and AF "politics" on GeForces and how they changed....)
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Reply #24 - 17.07.07 at 15:06:39
 
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Maybe it would be better to give ATi your feedback, not some 3dfx forum on the web, where not a single ATi developer or other staff member will ever read this. Tell those, who are responsible. Doing so finally changes things, it may take time, but it only works by telling the developers. (Think AA and AF "politics" on GeForces and how they changed....)


that is exactly what I would of done or on an ATi support forum or from Shuttle where you got the 9800 pro with, not here gary that doesn't resolve it it would obly stur it up in a flamewar, which nobody is after anyways.

no offence at you but the way you aimed it at me again with no good reason I hate that as many other friends of mine do, don't do that too many times, it can give them a very bad idea on who you are and how you really think of others and really I had hoped not for this to be that way. Undecided
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Reply #25 - 17.07.07 at 15:11:24
 
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exactly topics like these don't belong in a 3dfx forum it would only lead into trouble anyways.

We are in the right subforum anyway Wink
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Sadly both Ati and Nvidia prefere to develop an enormous number of similar video board rather than to develop serious drivers. 3Dfx was different.
These are the facts Smiley
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Reply #26 - 17.07.07 at 15:13:55
 
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We are in the right subforum anyway Wink
Those are the facts Smiley

a 3dfx forum doesn't need this as sub forum it would only pull the members appart from each other.

this place should be like a Furnace place, topics that run so bad should be put here, but shouldn't be able to be replied to, only Admins as Moderators should eb able to de enter The Furnace to place bad topics not common users, not a samrt idea tio have a place like this here where as everyone can access.

Ranters should be expelled.
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Reply #27 - 17.07.07 at 15:20:16
 
Sometimes it's a good thing to express an opinion
Sadly both of you are angry each other
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Reply #28 - 17.07.07 at 15:21:45
 
I remember my own forums back in the time where my HW site was still up and running. There was a "Vortex of chaotic Anarchy" subforum with absolutely no rules and no moderation whatsoever.

This became one hell of a pit of verbal violence, p0rn and just everybody saying what they thought about each other openly. But it sure was one hell of fun too, people loved it.

But then again, most people can't handle anarchy forums. Taking things too seriously and stuff.

Moderated forums tend to be more... *caugh*, "civilized".
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Reply #29 - 17.07.07 at 15:27:37
 
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this is one of them moments man Kinda ghey ya know, and really I don't care if it's an ATi card, NV card S3 Card , matrox card or what ever, it just how you see my posts as spam instead of the truth.


Have I ever stated you posts were spam?

Nope.

I can assure you the truth of what happened last night, since I was there to live through it.
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