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Reply #30 - 05.07.07 at 21:44:43
 
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I agree with you there. But you can call a company dumb names.

Like I could say AMD sucks and have my reasons for feeling that way. If someone who is a fan of AMD takes offense that's his/her problem. (I don't think AMD sucks for the record).

If that's what you mean by targetting people and calling them names, that's indirectly and it's the person who takes offense's fault for having the so-called love affair with the particular company in the first place.

That's my 2 cents.
Of course it's possible to call a company dumb names on a forum. And about 'the people who feel offensive', that's not my point. Imagine you read a book and you have an Apple and a Pear company:
"Those Peardiots have such a bad image quality, they can never keep up with Apple nor with FruityFX. Besides, Apple is releasing new products within the month (note: Everyone knows the product has been delayed for 3 months and previews shows it's far behind Pear) and they will rock because this (insert link) benchmark shows it's very good. (And the other 99 benchmarks show Pear is good). And then, look at this site (insert link), they say Pear is very good and Apple falls behind (they have a constructive story there). What an idiots, they are just pro-Pear."

All the sentences in () are comments. Imagine reading the store above in lot's of replies again, and again, and again and again. If someone tells it's a bit 'Pro-Apple' and it's not fun to read Pearidiots anymore you'll get a blast off that "it's my opinion and Pear sucks anyway".

Numerous of replies in the like as shown above (or somewhat like it) are considered spam to me and to be honest: I rather read an objective reply about something. Probably it's difficult to be a fanboy and talk positive about other brands...

By the way, don't get me wrong on this. I don't hate people if they are a fanboy and/or do the 'Facts' FalconFly stated. The only thing is that it's getting annoying to read it thousand times and after a while and if it comes to the point the one who posts all the 'Facts' FalconFly stated gets a bit irritated and agitated.
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Reply #31 - 05.07.07 at 21:49:08
 
Alright, since the Topic is apparently upsetting a number of people...

Here's an Idea :

Have 20 Forum Members (<5% of Total Members) - Registered 04 Jul 2007 or earlier - PM me on the matter in Obi's favor.

I successful, I will :
- restore the Thread to its original position
- leave it alone
- and restore Obi's Moderatorship if he re-registeres to the Forum

That compromise is to show you and everybody, that I'm certainly not the fool you think I am.

Although I'm Admin, pay the bills and run the show, I'm rather rarely participating myself.
Therefor, it's mainly to the benefit of its Members themselfes.
If these 20 Members vote in your favor, I will maintain my position on the matter but simply let the Members have it their way this time.

That provision should be failsafe, just in case the general Opinion is "FalconFly is usually an okay guy but we think he plain f*cked up this time"

How's that for a deal ?
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Reply #32 - 05.07.07 at 22:08:48
 
of course...i have to live with your decision...you are the admin and i like this place...
but i guess everbody should post his opinion when something goes wrong in his eyes...

your deal is on the one hand a good deed...but one the other hand obiwan has to decide if he wants to come back...if he doesn't want to come back we will have to accept this...

i hope you won't use your "good deed" to blame him if he doesn't want to...just to make this clear: i do not want to imply this into your post...but i want to anticipate for this case...
i hope you understand what i want to say...
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Reply #33 - 05.07.07 at 22:15:27
 
I know and that's perfectly fine.

I like being Admin best, when Admin has nothing to do Wink

If enough people (20) think like you, you and Obi will have it their way, no hard feelings on my side.

PS.
In the last 12 hours, there were already 26 active Members that would qualify (registered at or before 04/07/2007). Getting 20 to voice their Opinion on the matter is all it takes to overrule my Opinion.

If the Thread really was supposedly so famous and my judgement deemed wrong on this matter, it actually should be an easy task.

PPS.
I also have a pretty good Idea how this got out of hand and turned into what it is now, but that's nothing for the public view.
Supporters for Obi not Registered here can always reach me via EMail (falconfly@ewetel.net) and give their reasoning for me to consider...
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Reply #34 - 05.07.07 at 22:17:29
 
i will vote for obiwan....

count 1...
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Reply #35 - 05.07.07 at 22:18:27
 
Counted, but please also per PM (easier to keep track of, I'll keep all PM's for counting)
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Reply #36 - 05.07.07 at 22:28:51
 
Lock the thread and count the PM votes...
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Reply #37 - 05.07.07 at 22:32:57
 
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The Thread was very popular ?



I didn't think so, I avoided it like my life depended on it.

Typical F.F. ATI topic-

Poster one: ATI hardware rocks.

Poster two: I had nothing but problems with the ATI hardware I purchased, giving perfect X-Y & Z examples.

Poster one: NVIDIOT!!

Why bother posting if that is going to be the response?
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Reply #38 - 05.07.07 at 23:12:50
 
On a sidenote :

Good to see how many good and fine people are out there.

Whoever launched the DDOS-Attack on www.falconfly.de did a good job.

It's the first time I've seen the uplink being cut (and trust me, many tried and failed in the past)...

Site should be restored within the Minute (and yes, I'm on direct connect to the Location Management).

One more time and I'll have the legal System do some work for my taxpayer's money. About time I get something back for it and for once kick the lawyers into action that I pay for anyway.
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Reply #39 - 06.07.07 at 00:38:56
 
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On a sidenote :

Good to see how many good and fine people are out there.

Whoever launched the DDOS-Attack on www.falconfly.de did a good job.


Funny people Roll Eyes This disqualyfies these peoples from further discussion (if this was NOT a coincidence [which means "they" aren't responsible for this], they should consider going back to kindergarden Angry ).

@ gdonovan:

Nice example indeed, I pretty much ROFLMAOed Grin

I don't get the point in this discussion. On the one hand I can understand Falconfly's position. Somewhere HAVE to be restrictions and unpopular decisions have to be made. It's not like Obi wasn't told this would happen (the "removal" of the ATi thread) if nothing would change.

But I can understand Obi as well, he just has this special enthusiasm about ATi Hardware and wants others to be supplied with the newest developments etc.

It didn't bother ME, I felt good about the thread (in terms of information). But the truth is, that it definitly was NOT possible to normally discuss something about ATi hardware in this thread. But this was was the initial purpose of the thread.. Wink

So why don't all of you ([more or less] envolved people) forget about this thing? It's pointless to discuss this any further..
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Reply #40 - 06.07.07 at 02:50:30
 
let's get over it indeed and move on, I'm tierd of what has happened myself.

From here on i will post things that morely 3dfx related than non 3dfx since it's true that this place is a pro 3dfx related one as one of not so many.

My appologies for what happened in that ATi thread for the ones that didn't like it, didn't know that the blame would be that hard as it seemed it would be, since what has happened from my Point of View wasn't that pleasant, an apollogy would be at the least worthy, as for the Admins an apollogy to you as well, I hope the same for my part.
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Reply #41 - 06.07.07 at 02:51:10
 
Not being a moderator/administrator, I have the luxury of not looking at posts that don't interest me.

I think we should show a little respect to our admins, they do a job that I wouldn't enjoy doing Wink

This is my home page and I'm proud of it!!
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Reply #42 - 06.07.07 at 03:07:49
 
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On a sidenote :

Good to see how many good and fine people are out there.

Whoever launched the DDOS-Attack on www.falconfly.de did a good job.

It's the first time I've seen the uplink being cut (and trust me, many tried and failed in the past)...

Site should be restored within the Minute (and yes, I'm on direct connect to the Location Management).

One more time and I'll have the legal System do some work for my taxpayer's money. About time I get something back for it and for once kick the lawyers into action that I pay for anyway.


Now that's funny, I guess there are other peeps out there who took offense.

I was at work and had nothing to do with a DDos attack on your website. I don't believe Obi had anything to do with it either.

Are you making this up?
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Reply #43 - 06.07.07 at 05:17:46
 
sorry different time zone missed out on whats going on
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Reply #44 - 06.07.07 at 08:57:46
 
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Are you making this up?


Certainly, I like taking my own Archive offline and blame it on someone else once a while.

You must be kidding.
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