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Re: Hypothetical situation
Reply #15 - 08.06.04 at 01:04:14
 
Nera-X from the VoodooAlert.de Forum was (is?) into this a while ago...

Hynix HY57V283220-5 was being said to be only RAM possible for something like that.

But as to how far this went, I cannot tell, and I've never heard of any progress or updates.
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Reply #16 - 08.06.04 at 01:29:09
 
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Where would you put the additional 64 mo (or less) ?
you remove the existing ?
You need perhaps and also to sacrifice a Voodoo 5 in order to get the memory ?


Id'e go for replacing the existing 16*4 with some 32*4 chips.
Will be a bit hard to find the exact same chips with higher capacity, but where there's a will - there's a way.

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Sure id'e do it

First things first you have to find the same ram as on that V5 but in 32mb chips. if they even exist.
or some compatible chips [ie used on another V5 of the same revision] with higher capacity [the thing here is to get the exact same pinout]

If your intrested in all that hard work, i'll take a looksee into the V5 bios and see how to make it all work,
shouldn't be /that/ hard though.

Thing is, i have no problem risking my own hardware [v4] for such a crazy project.
but id'e feel really bad if id'e destroy someone else's V5, especially since those are getting rare-er by the day
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Reply #17 - 08.06.04 at 02:12:39
 
well, ill send out some emails on the ram, as i remember someone found it but you have to buy a few, as far as the v5  id send you my o/c v5 since it hits 200 as it is, if it doesnt end up working thats ok, as long as your willing to give it a try im willing to also, first off ill see if i can get the ram, that seems to be the first objective.
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Reply #18 - 08.06.04 at 02:30:33
 
Ok, ty falconfly for that info, ive sent out an email to the maker on the ram, from what i can see from there site the speed on that is 200 which is nice, i asked them if they still had any and price on minimum order, so ill wait and see, crossing my fingers
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Reply #19 - 08.06.04 at 12:41:26
 
I'm expecting a high rise in demand for Hyundai memory based V4's on ebay!  8)Expect prices to double!  Grin
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Reply #20 - 08.06.04 at 14:29:47
 
Yeh but sellers don't usualy specify what type of ram it has.

Heck, both v4s that i had (sold one) were listed as "3DFX Voodoo4 4500 AGP/PCI" without even specifying the amount of ram Smiley

just got lucky that's all
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Reply #21 - 10.06.04 at 02:36:52
 
well here's the reply i got on my email i sent out on the ram ----->

Subject : Re: Hynix HY57V283220-5
Answer : Dear Customer,

Thank you for visiting our website.

We have sales channel in U.S.A.
The following is contact information.

HYNIX SEMICONDUCTOR AMERICA INC. (H.S.A)
3101 North First Street,
San Jose, CA 95134, U.S.A
Tel: 408-232-8000     Fax: 408-232-8103
E-Mail : akassak@us.hynix.com

Please contact our sales channel.
Have a nice day.

so i sent them out an email today, im not sure if they still carry this ram or not but if they do and its what we need than i want to get it, im not sure if anyone else is even interested in this since ive seen these topic's come and go all the time elsewhere but im not into any B.S.  so if and when they email me back again ill post it here.
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Reply #22 - 10.06.04 at 11:26:58
 
You are saying that Voodoo 5's and Voodoo 4's are getting rare?

I can buy up to atleast 20 of each here for just $3.5 each...
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Reply #23 - 10.06.04 at 11:59:03
 
Then you're lucky, in Germany you can increase this Price by a factor of no less than 10x (!)

Try to get a Voodoo5 5500 PCI here, and you'll be scratching upto 100 Euro.

If you can make it, please buy 100 Voodoo4's and 100 Voodoo5's for me; I could almost retire on the Auction outcome Grin
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Reply #24 - 10.06.04 at 19:04:31
 
It's not that they are hard to replace, anyone who has the money can always find one on ebay or whatever [heck, like i said in some other thread - many retailers still have those anyway]

but if Avg.Joe sends me his hard-earned-and-paid-for voodoo5 and some not-very-cheap 4x32mb chips of ram, and i accidently burn the damn thing - it won't make him a happy man, now would it?

But heck if they cost 3.5$ to replace, start sending me your voodoos people  Grin
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Reply #25 - 10.06.04 at 19:56:42
 
lol, not trying to do this mod at all would be just as bad, this will keep people involved that much longer with their 3dfx cards which is good news for me, more people means more chances that some of them will be able to help with drivers, bios, hardware. some people have moved on and thats ok, but for us that are left its nice to have hope, so please dont give up the hope, its nice to have cards in boxes sitting on shelves and looking at them once in awhile but to have it in your main rig while your gaming is better.
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Reply #26 - 10.06.04 at 20:02:41
 
Agreed Smiley

Every little step forward is a good step for 3dfx !

...simply because if it weren't for all those little steps the Community did in the Past, we'd be sitting on nothing but 3 years old Drivers, with no know-how left to carry on.

Anyway, if there's any way of entering "mass production" (to whatever extend) for those Mods, count me in Smiley
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Reply #27 - 10.06.04 at 21:15:39
 
First lets hope that Hyundai/Hynix still have those sitting in an old box somewhere and that they don't mind selling them for peanuts Grin

After that i'll do one v5, if it succeeds - i'll have absolutly no problem doing that 'mass production' that falcon is talking about.

If not.. well.. it's one v5 that will go down the drain

Either way, whoever will be the first guy/girl to send me his V5, please make sure you are not emotionaly bound to it :p lol
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Re: Hypothetical situation
Reply #28 - 10.06.04 at 21:46:11
 
Yup, both.

See the V4 is like <V3, it's downright simple.

But in the V5 case i'll have to take care of the memory allocation for SLI [textures and all that]. i'll have to see that the SLI itself works properly, and taking care of 2 cores isn't as easy as handling one Wink

Maybe i'm wrong though, maybe 3dfx have made the v5 bios code as simple as the one on v4 - and the sli is handled via percentage of avail. memory.. don't know.. haven't looked at the source yet..

[BTW, speaking of the source, my copy is of a --very-- old revision {i'm not on the linux box right now so i can't check which rev exactly}, does anyone know where i can get a source of 1.18?]
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Reply #29 - 11.06.04 at 03:38:40
 
if i dont get a reply by monday ill call them on the phone, i wonder if there is any other ram we can use if they dont have it anymore? anyone have an idea on that  just in case.
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