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Reply #75 - 24.06.04 at 11:27:06
 
Is the reason why the GeForce2MX memory can be used, is because it uses SDR RAM??

I never knew that, as I always thought it was similar to the other GTS/Pro/Ultra series.

I use a nVidia GeForce2 Pro, so I guess that would be out of the question as it uses Elite MT DDR memory?  ???
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Reply #76 - 24.06.04 at 15:16:35
 
Hope orders can start soon.  Grin
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Reply #77 - 24.06.04 at 20:33:25
 
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Is the reason why the GeForce2MX memory can be used, is because it uses SDR RAM??

I never knew that, as I always thought it was similar to the other GTS/Pro/Ultra series.

I use a nVidia GeForce2 Pro, so I guess that would be out of the question as it uses Elite MT DDR memory?  ???


I'll repeat again, the ***only*** reason why i used a GF2mx is becuase it had the same ram as my V4, for heaven's sake people stop thinking that it's the only possible card Tongue

And yeh the GF2mx is the only GF2 that has SDR ram.
There /are/ a few cards that have DDR, and advertised as "WHOOPASS GF2MX DDR!!!1OENOEN", but they have 64bit DDR, which is just as bad as 128bit SDR

The ram on the V4/5 is pretty much standard.
SDR, 6ns, 166mhz.
I just didn't want to use different chips than what was already there, to avoid any kind of potential incompatibility. [my V3, actually has ram from 3 makers on it.. lol]

And no my friend, DDR is not possible.
The core just doesn't support it,
and even if the core did - trying to hack a bios to use a completely different type of ram, is not a hobby - it's a job Smiley [if you get what i mean Tongue]
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Reply #78 - 28.06.04 at 03:04:34
 
well i still havent gotten to see what the rams are that i have, ive been very busy im sorry, but i wonder what ram the g2 mx used, and if they only used 1 kind?
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Reply #79 - 28.06.04 at 09:56:44
 
Standard 166mhz 6n SDR, most commonly Hyundai ram was used, but in other cases Samsung, Infenion and Siemens were used aswell.

[early nVidia reference designs used 5.5ns ram clocked at 183mhz, i actually have one of these beta boards made by nVidia, but as far as i know no retail boards had 183mhz ram]
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Reply #80 - 29.06.04 at 10:38:58
 
The Ram of the V5 5500 should work, shouldn't it? I've got a damaged V5, so the Ram could be used for a V4 with 64MB.
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Reply #81 - 07.07.04 at 03:25:52
 
i havent given up(just to let you know) ive been stuck with overtime at work for 2 weeks now, plus im trying to get my 3dfx mod theme case together which always seems to need a part i dont have yet,  so please dont give up on idea.
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Reply #82 - 17.07.04 at 19:10:02
 
okay my Voodoo4 4500 AGP has this memory reading:

SAMSUNG 043
K4S643232C-TC60

UL1604CA KOREA

So how can I find out how many ns my ram is?

here's a photo of my Voodoo4 4500 AGP Rev 3300 A0:

ftp://213.10.80.171/3dfxPictures/3dfx%20Voodoo%204%204500%20AGP%20Front%202.jpg

and what about a 256MB Voodoo5 6000  Roll Eyes
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Reply #83 - 18.07.04 at 00:15:43
 
Lets see...
V6k have 128mb, spread across 16 chips, [8 back, 8 front, right?], that means each chips is 8 meg.

Can be easily replaced with 16m chips.
The problem is digging up 16 chips of the same make and latency.. heh

But that can be done, for sure.

Another problem would be finding someone crazy enough to put the life of a V6k on the line.
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Reply #84 - 18.07.04 at 02:35:25
 
Heh indeed

An automatic soldering machine would be really nice too..

I mean.. c'mon..

Soldering 4 chips to a V4 isn't a problem.
Re-soldering 16 chips on a V5500 ... meh.. couple of days work
But 32 chips on a V6k .. holy crap..

That is really not work that should be done manually
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Reply #85 - 18.07.04 at 13:26:42
 
Well do it SLOWLY. If you do it to fast things are more likely to go wrong. The amount of chips is not the problem it is the patience a person has.
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Reply #86 - 21.07.04 at 21:16:29
 
DenisF, im bidding on pci5500 cards right now(i guess its just better sense togo pci now), as soon as i get one (i have just my boxed one) im going to the small pc stores here and checking some cards for the ram( easier i think than asking people for it on ebay) and then ill notify you so i can send them to you, very sorry for the delay, just like the rest of you ive been a little busy.
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Reply #87 - 22.07.04 at 06:09:34
 
ok i won the 5500pci, when it gets here ill check ram, then ill goto the pc shop and see if i can find a card with right ram, from what ive seen its easy to find same ram of same mb, harder to get it at twice the mb Undecided antone seen the right hyu6 ram at higher mb on a specific card?
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Reply #88 - 26.07.04 at 21:45:03
 
ok, i just got the v5500 pci delivered so this weekend ill hit up a couple local pc shops, lucky for me there are several within 20 minutes----------now for a question, i never have looked for a build date on a card before but i see these # on the back 210-0414-001-A1, can anyone please explain these # to me, ty Undecided
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Reply #89 - 26.07.04 at 23:15:07
 
You need to look for something like this :
(Example taken from a Voodoo Rush)

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9752 indicates :
Calendar Week 52 of Year 1997

It gets a bit Tricky since some manufacturers swapped year and week numbers, which becomes a factor with Cards produced 2000 or later.

The build date is sometimes very hard to find, and occasionally, it is encoded rather somewhere on a Number-filled Sticker, than soldered into the PCB itself (which is the normal case).

In the past (and still today), it is often incorrectly referred to as "Revision", frequently used to name Voodoo5-6000 "Revisions" for example.
(although later/more current PCB's indeed often go hand in hand with somewhat revised designs)
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210-0414-001-A1

...is the 3dfx-specific Model/Part Number for the Voodoo5 PCI PCB; more precisely the 3dfx Part # is 210-0414-001 , the PCB is Revision A1 in this case.
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