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Reply #90 - 27.07.04 at 07:31:58
 
ok, ty so much falconfly, i found it, its 31 00 which has hyundai ram, got another its 29 00 toshiba ram, oh well that was fun ty Smiley
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Reply #91 - 31.07.04 at 02:39:02
 
Ok, so far this isnt looking all that good, might just be me but so far this is the only card that has the right size ram(manufacter isnt the same thou)

http://www.tech-report.com/onearticle.x/2598

and to make matters worse i cant find this card, not even on price watch Angry

has anyone else spotted a card with the right size ram? most have the same ram as is already on the card.
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Reply #92 - 31.07.04 at 02:49:41
 
Guess this is why no one ever made this 128mb mod eh  Sad
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Reply #93 - 31.07.04 at 03:42:56
 
i really thought this would be easier to find on a card than by itself, it seems for this kind of ram 64mb was as high as they went for 8 chips, except this card so far, which i cant even find Cry

http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/simprod.asp?pid=8371&ad=pwatch

http://www.toolspcs.com/asgefnvidmx6.html
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Reply #94 - 31.07.04 at 10:50:45
 
Hmm - I thought of this "project" while I took pictures of all my cards. http://xn--grsten-jua.se/3dfx/

I saw that the GeForce 2 MX 200 I have, and got for free, the Hercules 3d Prophet 4500 and my Voodoo 4 4500 all has similar rams.

A Prophet 4500 has 8 Samsungs and a GeForce 2 MX has 4 I think. All of them has the same size as the ones on a Voodoo 4/5... A pity but it makes it easy to get enough chips to extend a Voodoo 5 board. The Prophet 4500 should be easy to get. They costs around $15 here.

Although - one of the better solutions now may be to slaughter many old GeForce 2 MXs or to slaughter a V5 for a V5. I can still get more over here for a very cheap price (because of they being the worst computer shop in the world)

I don't know if this is interesting but I can also say that the V5s they have is the Hundai or how it now is spelled. I myself have 4 of those.
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Reply #95 - 31.07.04 at 19:04:36
 
well i think the problem is we need ram with 2x the mb of whats on there not 2x more ram ???
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Reply #96 - 31.07.04 at 19:11:13
 
Yeh

Having extra 4 chips of 8 megs won't do any good.

the V5 already uses 8mbx4 per-vsa, what's needed here is 16mbx4
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Reply #97 - 31.07.04 at 19:27:22
 
I know the Toshiba memory also has a 16MB version.
When I looked up the numbering on my ram on the Toshiba site I found no reference to 8MB chips, only to 16MB chips with the exact same numbering.

Anyone think of looking at SDR-SDRAM memory modules? (Those things you stick in your motherboard Tongue) Single sided 128MB modules should have 16MB chips

Perhaps the ASUS V7100 Pro has 16MB chips?
http://uk.asus.com/products/vga/v7100pro/overview.htm
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Reply #98 - 31.07.04 at 20:10:43
 
Ofcourse they should, but the sdram you find in a standard motherboard is 1) 64bit 2) 133mhz at best*


*or you can pay a premium, and get PC150 (166mhz) ram
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Reply #99 - 01.08.04 at 09:59:22
 
Anyone think of looking at SDR-SDRAM memory modules? (Those things you stick in your motherboard ) Single sided 128MB modules should have 16MB chips

ya thought of this, i contacted chip make and they could only tell me i had to go to stores and look at ram to see what was what, now i dont know of a store thats gonna let me look thru all there ram is the problem, plus the fact that the ram is slower than what comes on video cards Undecided
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Reply #100 - 08.08.04 at 23:50:28
 
Some info from my end of the world Tongue

My V5 5500 has the following memory:

Toshiba F38156
0013 KAD (<- could be 0013KAD)
Japan
TC59S6432CFT-60

According to this site, the following exists:

TC59S6432CFT-50 2MX32 TSOP 3.3V  TOS
TC59S6432CFT-54 2MX32 3.3V  TOS
TC59S6432CFT-60 2MX32-PC166 TSOP 3.3V CL3  TOS
TC59S6432CFT-70 2MX32-PC143 TSOP 3.3V CL3  TOS
TC59S6432CFT-8 2MX32-PC100 TSOP 3.3V CL2
TC59S6432CFT-80 2MX32-PC100 TSOP 3.3V CL2

On the 15th of November of 2003 I did a search on the Toshiba site and found only documents about the 16 megabyte variant of my memory. Unfortunately, those documents are no longer online.

This site is full of info.

Found this document which tells about this memory.

However, there is one thing I don't understand.
Are the memory chips on the V4/5 in a 4Mx16 format or a 2Mx32 format. In other words: Is the memorybus 64bit or 128bit per VSA-100 chip?


(and no, the format for the chips is not 8Mx8 because that would mean that you would have at least 8 memory chips per VSA-100: The last number in 4Mx16 or any other format is calculated by dividing the size of the memorybus per chip, by the amount of memorychips per chip.)
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Reply #101 - 09.08.04 at 00:10:39
 
The bus per-chip is 128bit
[total 256bit on a V5500, 512bit on a v6000]
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Reply #102 - 09.08.04 at 00:14:44
 
Yeah, I did some more searching, found an article on AnandTech about it Smiley
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Reply #103 - 09.08.04 at 00:17:32
 
Aye

You know though, sdram=sdram=sdram
in technical-theory, any graphic sdram chip can be used on any voodoo card.

I'm gonna do a new mod next week [after i get my new pc parts], i'm gonna try to mod a banshee with some 183mhz memory.

If that works, the possibilities are endless Smiley
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Reply #104 - 09.08.04 at 09:54:11
 
Did some more searching on my memory:

Specifications of the 5.4ns variant plus an image of a videocard that's using this.
Unknown if it's the standard 2Mx32 or what we're looking for; 4Mx32.

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"Organization : 524,288 words x 4 banks x 32bits"
Am I looking at the wrong thing or is this most definately 4Mx32?

...

Did some more searching and found a german site with a newsartikel about Unika:
Quote:
English: UNIKA will launch a geforce2 Pro chip based video card called Fast Fit 7000 AGP soon in next week. What are the unique features of this card? Well, first it will be equipped with 32MB 5.5ns 190MHz SDRAM, not the DDR SDRAM we commonly see on all other Geforce2 Pro video card. The core speed is 200MHz.


http://www.rivastation.com/go.htm?http://www.rivastation.com/cgi-bin/newsp/searc...


I think we need this card:
Did some more searching on the Unika site.
This card has potential: http://www.unika.com.cn/includes/product.php?id=305

128bit, 64MB total memory 4(?) chips.
Most likely this is 4Mx32; what we're looking for.

http://www.unika.com.cn/products/product_spall.php/#2
Other products, most interesting are the Geforce2 SDR products.

We need the 64MB version:
64MB divided over 4 chips: 16MB per chip.
128bit bus divided over 4 chips: 32bit per chip
Format will be 4Mx32

Anyone know where we can buy these cards?
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